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I hate college football, all the rednecks come out
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whats the fastest way to destroy an upper level low? These things seem to always stall out and ruin an entire week. Maybe we're seeing more of them now, I'm wondering why we get this kind of crap weather more frequently now vs back in the 90s and earlier
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It could be 120 every day for all I care, what I actually care about is why have our summers become much less sunny and is there any data that tracks that?
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why does this happen so much?! I can understand one day of rain in a week, that's my limit but why is it every time it rains it rains for 3 days straight and we see no sun for half a week? you didn't see this stuff in the 90s, you saw actual summers with heat and sunshine not this crap
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well no wetness until well after the weekend at least
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Maybe they have boom or bust years just like cicadas do?
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
I wonder if the media even covers these things and questions the administration about being hypocrites. -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
One thing I did like about what Elon Musk did, he used the first real space trip by an entirely private crew to raise money for St Jude's Children's Hospital......over 200 million was raised and 50 million personally came from him. Also one of the people on the mission was a pediatric cancer survivor and a Physician's Assistant who works at St Jude's. And that was a real space trip- they were up there for 3 whole days and at around 600 miles up and in orbit! -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
also this one, animals might be more moral than most humans https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10892-018-9275-3 Rowlands (2011, 2012, 2017) has recently argued that some nonhuman animals (hereafter ‘animals’) may be moral creatures, understood as creatures who can behave on the basis of moral motivations. He has argued that, while animals probably lack the sorts of concepts and metacognitive capacities necessary to be held morally responsible for their behaviour, this only excludes them from the possibility of counting as moral agents. There are, however, certain moral motivations that, in his view, may be reasonably thought to fall within the reach of (at least some) animal species, namely, moral emotions such as “sympathy and compassion, kindness, tolerance, and patience, and also their negative counterparts such as anger, indignation, malice, and spite”, as well as “a sense of what is fair and what is not” (Rowlands 2012, 32). If animals do indeed behave on the basis of moral emotions, they should, he argues, be considered moral subjects, even if their lack of sophisticated cognitive capacities prevents us from holding them morally responsible.Footnote 1 The empirical evidence gathered until now suggests that Rowlands may be on the right track and that some animals are indeed capable of behaving morally. Some studies, for instance, have found that animals are sometimes willing to help others when there is no direct gain involved, or even a direct loss. Such apparently altruistic behaviour has been shown by rats (Church 1959; Rice and Gainer 1962; Evans and Braud 1969; Greene 1969; Bartal et al. 2011; Sato et al. 2015), pigeons (Watanabe and Ono 1986), and several primate species (Masserman et al. 1964; Wechkin et al. 1964; Warneken and Tomasello 2006; Burkart et al. 2007; Warneken et al. 2007; Lakshminarayanan and Santos 2008; Cronin et al. 2010; Horner et al. 2011; Schmelz et al. 2017). It has further been found that some animals will offer apparent consolation to individuals in distress, a behaviour that is thought to be triggered by empathic processes and has been observed in primates (de Waal and van Roosmalen 1979; Kutsukake and Castles 2004; Cordoni et al. 2006; Fraser et al. 2008; Clay and de Waal 2013; Palagi et al. 2014), corvids (Seed et al. 2007; Fraser and Bugnyar 2010), canines (Cools et al. 2008; Palagi and Cordoni 2009; Custance and Mayer 2012), elephants (Plotnik and de Waal 2014), horses (Cozzi et al. 2010), budgerigars (Ikkatai et al. 2016), and prairie voles (Burkett et al. 2016). A few studies have also found an aversion to inequity in chimpanzees (Brosnan et al. 2005, 2010), monkeys (Brosnan and de Waal 2003; Cronin and Snowdon 2008; Massen et al. 2012), dogs (Range et al. 2008), and rats (Oberliessen et al. 2016), which suggests the presence of a sense of fairness in these species.Footnote 2 -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Chimps are smarter than these people https://www.nature.com/articles/21415 Abstract As an increasing number of field studies of chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes) have achieved long-term status across Africa, differences in the behavioural repertoires described have become apparent that suggest there is significant cultural variation1,2,3,4,5,6,7. Here we present a systematic synthesis of this information from the seven most long-term studies, which together have accumulated 151 years of chimpanzee observation. This comprehensive analysis reveals patterns of variation that are far more extensive than have previously been documented for any animal species except humans8,9,10,11. We find that 39 different behaviour patterns, including tool usage, grooming and courtship behaviours, are customary or habitual in some communities but are absent in others where ecological explanations have been discounted. Among mammalian and avian species, cultural variation has previously been identified only for single behaviour patterns, such as the local dialects of song-birds12,13. The extensive, multiple variations now documented for chimpanzees are thus without parallel. Moreover, the combined repertoire of these behaviour patterns in each chimpanzee community is itself highly distinctive, a phenomenon characteristic of human cultures14 but previously unrecognised in non-human species. -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
But one must wonder what kind of a disaster we are talking about that would shock people into action. Climate change has easily killed many more times as many people as this awful pandemic has. Maybe their ultimate solution is mitigation via telling people to leave coastal areas or they think newly built sea walls will hold up? Maybe they've decided hey we can't stop this as soon as we need to so let's look at other things like putting up walls between the oceans and the cities and let's consider making people relocate by making flood insurance prices so high they can't afford to live there? What do you think about that kind of philosophy, Don? -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Looks like you're Team Asteroid too ha -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Hey I want to embargo China AND India AND Brazil -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
These kinds of charts need to have more real life panic and fear injected into them. For example we need to include what cities will be underwater at what temperature levels and how many millions will die at each temperature level. Graphs like these are fine for their purpose but to really scare people into action there needs to be an association made with these and real life results. People can't see 1.5 C or 2 C but they can see at x C temperatures we will lose y millions of people and cities a, b and c will be underwater, etc. -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
whats been happening in Louisiana for the past 2 years is I would say devastating consequences.... -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Best thing that could ever happen is another giant asteroid hits the Gulf of Mexico and entirely annihilates any dirty energy sources in the region. Team human or team asteroid.....I'm full on team asteroid lol. -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Hey Don I asked about that court case because it looked from what I saw that the state of California actually sued the federal govt? Is a lawsuit also possible in this case? I suspect a lot of these so-called fossil fuel workers (which are low quality bad health and low paying jobs anyway) live on the Gulf coast so how are they going to explain to their families that they have to move because the work they are doing caused the sea level to rise and drowned entire towns in the process? -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Yes the main problem are these companies who pollute, but their enablers who are policymakers seem like they are either completely dumb or completely corrupt. This woman who probably isn't even a scientist let alone a climate scientist, had the gall to downplay an IPCC report. I'm not even sure she has enough brain cells to understand the report. We put these mediocre policymakers in charge and achieve mediocre results. Unfortunately mediocre doesn't cut it anymore. On top of that, what I find deeply disturbing is we have another mediocre policymaker, Vilsap who is in charge of AG who is completely corrupt at best and at worst an out and out racist. People like that have such a conflict of interest that one wonders if the whole system "works" via bribery. -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
This lady needs to be sent to the bottom of the GOM. I'd actually rather have a series of Cat 5's in the GOM completely wreck the fossil fuel cartels.....one can only dream -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
OTHER ALTERNATIVES ANALYZED IN THE 2018 GOM SUPPLEMENTAL EIS Alternative B in the 2018 GOM Supplemental EIS would have offered for lease all available, unleased blocks within the CPA and EPA portions of the proposed lease sale area for oil and gas operations, with the following exceptions: whole and portions of blocks deferred by the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006, and blocks that are adjacent to or beyond the U.S. Exclusive Economic Zone in the area known as the northern portion of the Eastern Gap. Available blocks within the WPA would not be offered for lease under this alternative. Additionally, the following blocks would also be excluded: depth-restricted, segregated portions of Block 299, Main Pass Area, South and East Addition (Louisiana Leasing Map LA10A); blocks where the lease status is currently under appeal; and whole or partial blocks that received bids in previous lease sales, where the bidder has sought reconsideration of BOEM’s rejection of their bid, unless the reconsideration request is fully resolved at least 30 days prior to publication of the Final Notice of Sale. BOEM considered the oil and gas resource potential in the CPA and EPA and the likelihood of industry to develop those oil and gas resources in the context of social, economic, and environmental values, impacts, and concerns. Alternative B could potentially result in a slightly smaller amount of activity than forecasted for Alternative A (1.0-3.6% of the forecasted cumulative OCS oil and gas activity in the GOM). Approximately 53 million ac of the proposed lease sale area would have been available for lease under Alternative B. This alternative was not selected because it does not provide a timely opportunity for bidding on rejected, relinquished, or expired OCS lease blocks from the WPA as is provided in the chosen alternative, i.e., holding a region-wide lease sale. Further, the incremental contribution of the possible negative impacts of the selected alternative is expected to be only slightly greater than those of Alternative B. For these reasons, I did not choose Alternative B. Alternative C would have offered for lease all available, unleased blocks within the WPA portion of the proposed lease sale area for oil and gas operations, except for whole and partial blocks within the boundary of the Flower Garden Banks National Marine Sanctuary as of the July 2008 Memorandum on Withdrawal of Certain Areas of US OCS from Leasing Disposition. Available blocks within the CPA and EPA would not be offered for lease under this alternative. Additionally, due to their lease status, the following blocks would also be excluded: blocks where the lease status is currently under appeal and whole or partial blocks that received bids in previous lease sales, where the bidder has sought reconsideration of BOEM’s rejection of their 9 bid, unless the reconsideration request is fully resolved at least 30 days prior to publication of the Final Notice of Sale. BOEM considered the oil and gas resource potential in the WPA and the likelihood of industry to develop those oil and gas resources in the context of social, economic, and environmental values, impacts, and concerns. Alternative C could potentially result in only 0.2-0.6% of the forecasted cumulative OCS oil- and gas-related activity in the GOM, which is much smaller than either Alternative A or B. Approximately 26.9 million ac of the proposed lease sale area would have been available for lease under Alternative C. This alternative was not selected because it does not provide as prompt an opportunity for bidding on rejected, relinquished, or expired OCS lease blocks from the CPA and EPA as is provided in the chosen alternative, i.e., holding a regionwide lease sale. Moreover, because those planning areas likely would be considered separately for potential leasing under the current program, Alternative C is not certain to result in meaningfully different levels of oil and gas-related activity. For these reasons, I did not choose Alternative C. Alternative D would have offered for lease all available, unleased blocks under either Alternative A (the chosen region-wide Lease Sale 257 decision), B, or C, but would have excluded from the lease sale all blocks in Alternative A subject to either the Topographic Features, Live Bottom (Pinnacle Trend), and/or Blocks South of Baldwin County, Alabama, Stipulations, precluding economic benefits of oil and gas that could be developed in these blocks. Other than these block exclusions, all other aspects of Alternative D, including potential mitigation measures and estimates of resource production, are the same as for the chosen GOM Lease Sale 257 decision. Alternative D was not selected. Its impacts are expected to be nearly the same as those for the selected alternative. Compared to Alternative D, the incremental contribution of possible negative impacts attributable to the selected alternative is expected to be slight, and these negative impacts should be largely mitigated by the adoption of the Topographic Features Stipulation, Live Bottom Stipulation, the Blocks South of Baldwin County, Alabama, Stipulation (refer to Section 5), and site-specific mitigation measures that may be imposed at the plan or permit stages. Therefore, the minimal decrease in impacts that might be avoided did not outweigh the benefits of the oil and gas resources that could be produced by holding a regionwide lease sale that did not exclude these blocks. For these reasons, I did not choose Alternative D. GOM Lease Sale 257 would not be held under Alternative E, which is the No Action Alternative analyzed in the 2018 GOM Supplemental EIS. Alternative E was not selected because if it were, revenue would not be collected by the Federal Government nor subsequently disbursed to the States. If the proposed GOM region-wide lease sale were not held, the overall near-term level of OCS oil and gas-related activity in the region would be reduced. However, not holding a single lease sale would not significantly change the overall activity levels in the GOM (i.e., on blocks leased in previous lease sales) and the associated environmental impacts in the near term. 10 4. ENVIRONMENTALLY PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE BOEM identified Alternative E, defined as the No Action Alternative, as environmentally preferable in the 2018 GOM Supplemental EIS. The No Action Alternative is considered environmentally preferable because not holding the lease sale would preclude OCS oil- and gas related activities related to new leases from occurring, along with the resulting environmental effects in the Gulf of Mexico. However, significant OCS oil- and gas-related activity would be expected to continue under existing leases and, with only forty-eight percent of leases with approved exploration plans or development plans, the majority of currently leased blocks are still in the early exploration phase. Therefore, a no action alternative will not have immediate environmental benefits. It is also possible that in the short term, assuming OCS oil- and gasrelated activities remain confined to acreage currently leased, OCS operators would likely reevaluate their exploration, delineation, and development strategies across their existing portfolio and reallocate resources accordingly. This could also lead to small increases in the intensity of the activities in already leased areas and attendant small increases in impacts in those areas. -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
so this is the person we need to go after? _______________________________________ _______________ Laura Daniel-Davis Date Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary Land and Minerals Management cool so let's dig up dirt on her and completely ruin her life and get her canned.....I'm game! -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
alright so this is a bunch of hogwash but I'm interested in this legal case, what was this about? On August 9, 2021, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released a new report detailing observations of a rapidly changing climate in every region globally. This report does not present sufficient cause to supplement the EIS, at this time. See Stand Up for California! v. United States Dep’t of the Interior, 994 F.3d 616, 628 (D.C. Cir. 2021). The report as well as additional analysis of climate change may be a significant consideration in the Department’s decisions regarding oil and gas leasing programs in the future. The decision to hold Lease Sale 257 recognizes the role that GOM oil and gas resources play in addressing the Nation’s demand for domestic energy sources and fosters economic benefits, including employment, labor income, and tax revenues, which are highest in Gulf Coast States and also distributed widely across the United States. Revenues from offshore oil and gas lease 1 Mitigations for Alternative A include seismic airgun survey protocol (NTL 2016-BOEM-G02), guidance for vessel strike avoidance, guidance for marine debris awareness, avoidance of sensitive benthic resources, guidance for avoidance of historic and prehistoric sites, guidance for shallow hazards surveying and reporting, consultation in or near National Marine Sanctuaries, guidance for military coordination, and guidance for ancillary activities (Oil and Gas Program only). 8 sales support national conservation programs and coastal resiliency for applicable coastal states and political subdivisions under the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006. -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
If he doesn't do anything this will be a one term presidency and he should know that. I will not vote in the next presidential election and I dont care if Satan itself is running the country, let it all burn to hell. The faster humanity gets destroyed the better and I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Hey I have a novel idea-- why doesn't the rest of the world boycott America and American products. America needs to be treated like Iran and be forced to change, or make the American economy crash...... -
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LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
This is why I dont blame activists using whatever means necessary to end the fossil fuel cartels. No one else has the guts to do it. But one question, who is the moron who wrote this: Page 7 declares that the recent IPCC report “does not present sufficient cause” to block the sale of new oil and gas leases Do they not see what's happening on the planet right now? Also aren't fossil fuel cartel heads being forced to testify before Congress right now because of what Greenpeace uncovered about them using underhanded techniques in lobbying?