LibertyBell

or he wants to put a fork in winter and end it

I like when we get pure west winds because it keeps the humidity low. I wish there was a way to generate a west wind all the time when it's not raining or snowing Maybe we can do that with that wind farm we're putting up lol

It sucks, I still remember how great February 2018 was. Some of my favorite springs started in April 2002 (90s) and April 2010 (90s), dry and hot, leading into wonderful summers.

Is that how we did so well in April 2003 and April 2018? The snow in both cases got heavy before sunrise and continued most of the day? I actually love April snows a lot more than March snows..... March snows never seem to measure up to the greats like 1888, 1960, 1993, etc. But in April you get a 4-6" snowstorm and it's automatically one of the greats and remembered decades afterwards.

Absolutely.... March 2018 was completely overrated for our area March 2015 was my favorite March of the entire decade. Actually February and March of that year were probably the best that winter gave us, even better than December and January in 2010-11

sleet counts as snow with a 2:1 ratio? lol that means in March 2007 all that sleet counted as 5" of snow

the 51 high is a shocker because it was supposed to hit 60 here.

Oh sounds like you're more in the 10-15 inch camp for March rather than 6-10 which is what I was guessing. Is there anyway to see what the average temps and snowfall was for these Marches as well as for the Februaries that preceded them? Thanks!

I agree with this, if I had to guess I would say that we get somewhere between 6" and 10" of snow in March.... would you tend to agree with that?

lmao 51 here and windy, was that the high?

Chris are you seriously on board with a March 2015 part 2? I thought you'd be hesitant because this winter simply hasn't been all that cold compared to 2014-15 and March had a cold lag left over from the historically cold February?

That was a seriously cold March and one of my favorites. But I have a few issues with this. One is that we were much colder in that winter overall and coming off a historically cold February and that pattern lingered into March. I don't think we would get the same results this time around because this winter has not been nearly as cold. I do think we'll have more snow but I just dont want anyone to think just because we have a similar pattern the outcome will be the same. I think, for one, it will be milder, simply because it has never been as cold this winter as it was in 2014-15 and antecedent conditions do matter.

Gotta ignore that wind, the curse of living near the ocean, it's in the low 50s here with super windy conditions

They were actually using these storm names to make conclusions that we are trending towards less winter storms than we had when they first began naming them. Produced a bunch of graphics with their logo on them to compare how this year has less named storms than previous years when they named them.

True...okay I have an idea. Instead of having 10 quotes in one post, I'll try 3 and see if that helps. That should make it easier to read too. 10 quotes in one post sounds unmanageable but 3 should be okay to start with.

and yet we still have a big fat 0 of those 12"+ events in early March here in SW Nassau lol as well as the 5 boroughs (going by the official sites.) What I find really weird is that January is so close to December in the historical record for those big snowstorms but still lags far behind February. Have you recently seen a trend for February to be warmer and our snowfall peak move to January? If you just go by 20" storms, it seems like the peak has shifted from February to January?

Thanks, but doesn't it seem a bit weird to answer different subject matter all in the same post? I'll try it but I thought it'd be confusing to follow.

yeah and look at how Brooklyn, Queens and SW Nassau suck so bad and with a storm slightly to the east it shouldn't be like that.

the temps are immensely important too I'd like to see high/low splits for every post February event going back to say, 1950.

Yes Jan 2016, we got over 30 inches lol

Oh thanks I just noticed that! Actually the main reason I don't use it is because I always think of more to say later on so it's difficult to plan to multiquote when the original idea is to only quote one person lol.

Also there is no sign we are going to have anything as cold as any of the above that late in the season so even predicting a 4" event that late in the season is extremely foolish. 1982, 1996, 2003 and 2018 were all much colder to begin with.

I'm not even sure March/April 2018 qualifies as "deep winter" since if I remember correctly for NYC at least only the early April event was all snow. Deep winter usually means lots of snowcover that lasts for a long time and I don't recall that happening after February in my lifetime aside from the extremely anomalous April 1982 and March 1993 blizzards.

It's dumb to predict snow over a month out regardless of which month they're predicting for (especially so in the spring anyway.) I'm having this discussion in the monthly thread why it's unreasonable to assume urban areas can get a 10" snowstorm after February, when we haven't had one in decades. Honestly, going by historical data over the past few decades... a 4" snow event in early April is far more likely than a 10" snowstorm event for NYC after February. I can give you multiple examples of 4" snowstorms in April somewhere in the NYC area from the 1980s onwards but no 10" events after February. April 1982 (8-10") April 1996 (4"-JFK) April 2003 (4-8") April 2018 (4-6") 10.0" plus all snow snowstorms in that time period after February..... "crickets"

the NWS needs to have their own network apparently.