LibertyBell

chin up, we can still get minor snowfalls in a pattern like this, we just had one this morning stop expecting double digit snowstorms every season those should be a once in a decade event

You can still get minor snowfalls with a -PNA like this (we just had one today). As the season goes on and if this stays the way it is we could still get minor events. People get way too spoiled with double digit snowfalls. Keep your expectations in check, and you can get 1-4" inch type snowfalls in ANY kind of pattern. We had a lot of those in the 80s when it was much worse than it is now.

2.5" in the Poconos and 0.5" near Hempstead

or what they BOTH* said. you know Rjay and his menage trois.....

It has to, otherwise we'll be waiting a few more months.

does this change to rain in the middle of the storm or only when it's about to end (as drizzle)? is this all at night or does it snow in the morning too?

Christmas's best tradition are the ugly sweaters, so thanks for keeping the tradition alive!

why is this changing so radically from day to day and even from run to run? how can you have any faith in these changes when it could just as easily change again tomorrow (or later tonight!) let's just wait until it actually changes to say we're going to have a good pattern.

granted haha, also I dont actually want 110 here, but if Newark airport hits it, it's okay (they're 5 degrees warmer than the rest of the area anyway.) I just want NYC and JFK to hit 100 just once during the summer and not be stuck at 98 or 99 while LGA and EWR get to have all the fun.

we might need a big one to counteract the -PDO which might be the new base state

that super el nino had left its mark for that second year....thats why la ninas that happen right after el ninos give us so much snow (like 1995-1996 and 2010-11 too.)

yup there were some blockbuster winters in State College in the early-mid 90s (mid 90s for us too). So has the average storm track been moving north and west or south and east? Also we must remember the 70s and 80s were a huge aberration in low snowfall totals in (for example) NYC.

Long Island jackpot? The highest I could find on Long Island was 0.8. Is it still snowing anywhere?

Damn it was all melted when I woke up at 10. I was glad to be awake at 6 am when I saw it on the ground. Never saw it fall though.

yep 2 inches in the Poconos! Nice surprise to get close to 1" in parts of the city!

It is but I wonder if we transposed the November pattern into December would we have the same outcome? And for that matter, how much colder would the November 2018 average temperatures be if we transposed them into December with the identical pattern? I agree about having a favorable pattern, and average monthly temperatures not being that important.... I would hesitate even further to compare November temps to December temps because the same pattern a month later would result in a different (lower) average temp.

I remember in the 80s when we used to get little events like these and we treasured them lol. 4" was rare so that was like a blockbuster. Even getting a 1" snow event was a treat.

Yeah it looks like we have an uptick of both cold and flu over last year already. People were more cautious last year than they are now.

Checking through records we already had close to 130 heat index in July 1995 and just a few years ago in July we had a 117 heat index on back to back days. I'm a huge fan of dry heat though I hate humidity more than I hate anything else on this planet. I want westerly winds all summer long.

It could be very similar to what we got this time, just coming from the SW instead of NW. coating-1 inch

But you can't compare November to December lol, the average temperatures are radically different. Also, average temperatures are just a smoothed out mean for the whole month and meaningless for extremes on individual days which are still possible. It's an apples to oranges comparison. Was 15-16 our only 40/40 winter? I seem to recall there was another one here. Also 11-12 was a horrendous winter, that one day might have been the only decent snowfall that entire winter.

110 at Newark? Nah we already got super close to it in July 2011. Not a huge deal, especially with a/c It's just as historic as getting a 30 inch snowstorm. People who actually LOVE weather should ROOT for ALL weather extremes. Anyone who doesn't like extreme heat is just FAT.

If people don't have a/c they should have it put in for them, in our new climate THERE'S NO WAY ANYONE CAN LIVE WITHOUT IT.