LibertyBell

I remember we got like 1-2 inches or so out of storms that seemed like they would be major for us.

several things active tropical season yes but also the fact that so many of those storms recurved without hitting the east coast that seems to be an important factor in determining storm tracks also the very hot and very dry summer compared to 1933-34 in many respects 2010-11 was another unusual winter we had to reach far back for analogs to that one like 1916-17

according to Ray he reads messages but hasn't responded

I was 8 and thats my first snowstorm memory I remember it so clearly I woke up to see it at 3 am when it first started falling and then saw it fall all day. The snow stuck around all week and there was another snow event the following weekend.

suppression the snow went south of us

la ninas after el ninos may be our best winters of them all

epo driven both winters?

that early February 2010 storm was maddening-- Toms River got two feet of snow and they're what, 50 miles from us? Do you have any snowfall data for the Jersey shore from that winter that shows where the sweet spot was that winter that got directly hit by all the snowstorms? The late Feb storm was the only one in which NYC jackpotted so I'm wondering if there was a spot on the coast that did well in that storm as well as the early Feb storm too. There was also a late Jan storm that dropped 6-8 near Toms River and we got nothing

drawing parallels to Jan 1999 Don? We had a snow event that month

Hopefully. We might have to go through a transition average winter first though (like what 2012-13 was). Going from 2001-02 right to 2002-03 wont happen unless we have a strong el nino next year.

I still say we have a ceiling of 100 inches of snow here. I've read old reports that both NYC and Philly got 100 inches of snow in a couple of years in the 1800s and as recently as the 1860s.

Let's see if we get that again in a few years. 2009-10 and 2010-11 and 2013-14 and 2014-15 maybe have been our best back to back combos. Totally worth getting that skunk stinker 2011-12 in between.

for a few years there it seemed like winters actually started on January 20th. That place was a war zone that year. FWIW I think 2014-15 was highly underrated for us, I found it to be much better than 2013-14 for us on Long Island. 2013-14 was good too but too many changeover events and I'd rather have the heaviest snows to our northeast rather than changeover. February 2015 was the most Arctic like month I've ever witnessed here start to finish and March 2015 was my favorite March in a long time.

it depends on what kind of snow it is-- all is not created equal if its 1/2 of normal snow in storms that change to rain and is washed away getting no snow at all is far better

the shocking part was that 2014-15 was a backloaded winter....all that snow in Boston and they were canceling winter on New Years LOL

it's too pretty to eat!

December average snowfall is going down and average temperature is going up.

arent all patterns gradient patterns though?

They can still deliver in March though....1955-56 and 2017-18 are good examples.

we had a back loaded one just a few years ago with 4 snowstorms in March and one in April..... was that 2017-18? We also had 1955-56, remember that? Backloaded la ninas have still delivered 30-40 inches of snow

actually neither reality nor nonsense look good for us

Yeah we have new normals now BUT the good thing is that January and February are still our coldest months. December is absolutely finished as a winter month so it shouldn't even count as one.

and Seattle will have their first white Christmas in many years with an actual snowstorm today! I know a few people in Kamloops and that area in general and they just weren't ready for this. I remember a few years ago an entire town in Alberta burned down too.

I'd rather watch out of town teams that actually win games. Bad teams should be told to put their games on RSN's

Giants and Jets shouldnt even be allowed on TV