LibertyBell
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It looks like the rest of the precip at Central Park was freezing rain? 0.1 inch ZR reported there.
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well the speculation was we would keep getting high precip events like we did when the pattern was warmer.... what stopped the high precip events?
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weren't we in solar minimum in the late 70s? that's my thinking off the top of my head. also note: we have been at absolute solar maximum in 2023 and 2024 (which is why the total solar eclipse in April should feature lots of pink prominences!) we were also at absolute solar maximum in the early 1990s when we had all those very mild winters and very hot summers, when NYC had 22 out of 24 months above normal in 1990 and 1991 and set the then all time hottest year.
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Yes we should definitely see more snowfall than we saw in the 80s, maybe even the 90s too, except for 93-94 and 95-96, I don't see how we can beat those two winters lol.
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13-14 was great up until we hit that roadblock in March Otherwise it probably would have broken the record. Then it would have been a wall to wall winter (my requirement for wall to wall winter is above normal snowfall every month from December through March.)
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To be fair, one big event is all it will take. It can be above average the rest of the month.
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We are still at our night time low of 18 even in full sunshine! The snowcover-- what little there is of it-- is really nice to see.
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Don do you feel that Central Park probably undermeasured ?
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Yes 14-15 was one of my favorites too. I think December was mild though? I remember the new england forum was worried because they hadn't had much snow by January 15th. The rarest of rare winters are the ones that are snowy from December thru March (and sometimes November and April too!) That is insane about NYC and the other thing is NYC never even reached 30 inches of snowfall between 1978-79 and 1992-93. JFK did reach 30 inches of snowfall in 1982-83 though so that was above normal here.
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was this warm nose unusually vicious because of the abnormally warm ocean temps? I keep thinking that in a different season this storm would have been all snow because it tracked south of us and the winds always had a northerly component to them-- either NE or due N or NW. -
the 2-3 inch totals are uniform across the area which is interesting in a changeover event!
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It's happened over here too I'm worried about my electronics frying, both my computer and TV shut down immediately and did not come back on, while the lights flickered and stayed on. I have the computer hooked up to a UPS and the TV hooked up to a surge protector. I get these about once a week-- where the power flickers off on very quickly and the computer and TV shut off and stay off but everything else turns right back on again.
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If we get another 2-3 inches, we'll be happy.
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Walt, nice write up, interesting thing about Tuesday's storm was that although it did change to a wintry mix on the south shore of Long Island we got as much or more than what the city and close suburbs got -- we got 2-3 inches in the storm-- because of higher precip amounts on the front end. So changing over is worth it if you get more snowfall before it changes over. I've seen this before with coastals in borderline situations, where although the south shore changes over, they get more snow because of higher precip amounts, than areas that did not change over.
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Don, the el nino has peaked and has started to go down again? It peaked right at +2.0 last week, right?
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JFK had 2.0 of snow too. LGA also just missed 2", as they ended up with 1.9
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in 2015 February was also colder than January. Back in the old days, February used to be our coldest month.
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Here's an interesting thing about 15-16, popular opinion is that it was a one storm wonder, but it was really more than that. Long Island got hit with a storm that dumped a foot of snow in February and even the city got 4-6 inches and a crane fell in Manhattan in that storm. There was another storm in February that year too, around the superbowl I think? And NYC went below zero on Valentine's Day! Besides the torch in December, we had a nice winter, much better than the last 2 that's for sure. JFK had over 40" of snow and parts of Long Island had 50" and I remember a few things about 82-83, besides the February 1983 HECS, we had our latest accumulating snowfall on record on April 19-20, 1983. JFK got 2 inches in that storm and inland areas got 1-2 feet! So even if the el nino is very strong, you can count on either getting hit by a snowstorm late in the season or having a close call. Pretty much all you can ask for. Very rarely do we get winters that are snowy beginning to end, I think the last one we had was 2002-03 and 1995-96 and 1993-94 before that. I have not had any others here in my lifetime.
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It did dust up my driveway where I had cleared it off earlier and a bit more on trees and cartops now, but not worth measuring because it's probably not even a tenth of an inch lol
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those winters weren't lucky so much as we had better blocking (a Kara block in 15-16 and the 80s were colder in general than we are now.)
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it's ironic that it changed back to snow here and yet it's not sticking even though it's below freezing again (it's a very light snow)
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it's very light snow and not really sticking though
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It makes you wonder what kind of storm would have to occur to keep this from happening-- this storm even tracked south of us and wasn't a coastal hugger. Perhaps the SST are simply too warm for this time of year?
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it changed back to snow here at 3:55 but it's a very light snow, none of this is going to accumulate even though the temps are now below freezing.
