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Because of the very cold Januarys
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Have the hope that in spite of what the 80s were like 82-83 still happened and February was the best snowstorm we had between 1978 and 1996! In both 1982-83 and 2015-16 the south shore of Long Island had over 20 inch HECS! As a matter of fact JFK has had most of its 20"+ snowstorms during moderate and strong or very strong el ninos. (February 1983, 2003 PD2, January 2016). The other ones were in February 1961, February 1969, January 1996. So 6 total 20"+ snowstorms going back to 1960 at JFK and half of them were in moderate or strong or very strong el ninos. Every decade had at least 1 20"+ HECS at JFK (and the 60s had 2!) except the 70s (and many will tell you that the February 1978 HECS was grossly undermeasured at JFK at 14"-- when a nearby co-op in SW Nassau recorded 22" in that blizzard!)
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Don do you think it's likely that February will be the coldest month this winter season? January at +0.7 will be much colder than December was and the February mean is only slightly milder than January, so it wouldn't take much for February to be colder than January.
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I'm looking forward to the end of January through February period, I think that will be the best wintry period we've seen in 3 years (not saying much I know.) But imagine with temperatures just slightly colder than they were with this storm and with the same juiced up STJ, then 1982-83 and 2015-16 become good analogs for what can happen.
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How does this compare to the OV bomb in January 1978 (I know that was a weak el nino but it was a second year el nino.)
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
October 2011 was a nice surprise here with 1.5" any accumulation in October is historic-- just like an accumulating May snowfall would be. Another one was November 2012 which dropped 8 inches here, much less on the north shore. LGA had white rain while we had tree branches falling on the roads from the weight of the heavy wet snow (compounding the devastation from Sandy.)- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
the key with March (especially after the first week of March) is being away from urban heat island (which is pretty strong in Nassau County).- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
we just had some flakes here and there today, the radar was much more bark than bite. Yesterday afternoon into early evening was a nice surprise. You got 1" in Lynbrook yesterday? WOW- 3,610 replies
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I was just going to say, there was a nice area of a foot plus from NE PA across NW NJ and into the Hudson Valley and then interior SNE. 3-4 inches per hour for 2-3 hours too. This is the kind of storm that portends well for late January through February for the coastal plain at the climo peak of snowfall season and a juiced up el nino STJ, Ray!
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really lost it there huh? lmao
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it was a flake here and there, not like what the radar depicted
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Yes we got our arctic shots with dry weather and when precip moved in it rapidly warmed up.... similar to what's happened the last few years.
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Januarys were much colder than they are now and Februarys were exceptionally mild. Looking at that decade we had several Januarys in a row where the average temperature was in the mid to upper 20s.
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I remember when this was said back in December 2022 also ;-)
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why is it PNA vs RNA, instead of +PNA vs -PNA?
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Sundays in the winter are pancake day here too!- 3,610 replies
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sounds like widespread 60mph gusts
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you can have a trough on both coasts too
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82-83 was much colder, that entire decade was much colder (irrespective of snowfall.) At least 50% of the time we missed out on snow because it was too cold and it suppressed the storm track.
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
I wonder how much of a difference there was between Lynbrook and say Hewlett, which is the next town south of Lynbrook. JFK had only 0.1"- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
wow what time did you change over? it snowed here from 4 PM to 8 PM- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
It's shocking to see such a huge difference between Lynbrook and Long Beach- 3,610 replies
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I'm worried about power outages I was aware that the wind is going to be strong, just no specifics on exactly how strong. There is a big difference here between 50 mph, 60 mph and 70 mph. At 50 mph we are usually fine, at 60 mph we start having problems with power, at 70 mph there are tree limbs flying around and I'm worried about my windows
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
We had car tops and roof tops covered here with a few hours of light to moderate snow between 4 PM and 8 PM here, I think that's how JFK got their 0.1"- 3,610 replies
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from 60s to 10s?