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53 minutes ago, SACRUS said:
Records:
Highs: -- Coolest record highs of the month - 5/14 just isnt hot in recorded history
EWR: 86 (1991)
NYC: 88 (1900)
LGA: 84 (1991)
JFK: 87 (1991)
Lows:
EWR: 36 (1939)
NYC: 40 (1878)
LGA: 44 (2019)
JFK: 39 (1987)
Historical:
1686: The inventor of the thermometer Gabriel Fahrenheit was born.1834: The greatest May snowstorm on record for New England occurred. The hills around Newbury, VT were covered with up to 24 inches of snow and the higher elevations around Haverhill, NH received up to three feet of snow.
1896 - The mercury plunged to 10 degrees below zero at Climax, CO. It was the lowest reading of record for the U.S. during the month of May. (David Ludlum)
1898 - A severe thunderstorm, with some hailstones up to 9.5 inches in circumference, pounded a four mile wide path across Kansas City MO. South-facing windows were broken in nearly every house in central and eastern parts of the city, and several persons were injured. An even larger hailstone was thought to have been found, but it turned out to be a chunk of ice tossed out the window of a building by a prankster. (The Kansas City Weather Almanac) (The Weather Channel)
1985: Severe thunderstorms developed in DeWitt County, located between Bloomington and Decatur, and moved northward. The storms produced a wind gust of 73 mph at the Bloomington airport. In the Marshall County town of Wenona, winds up to 100 mph destroyed several barns and farm buildings. LaSalle County had 2 inch diameter hail and 60 mph winds; in Mendota, nearly every building in town sustained some damage.
1987 - Seven cities across the western U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date as unseasonably hot weather made a comeback. The record high of 103 degrees at Sacramento CA was their ninth in eleven days, and also marked a record seven days of 100 degree heat for the month. Their previous record was two days of 100 degree heat in May. (The National Weather Summary)
1988 - Sunny and dry weather prevailed across the nation. Temperatures warmed into the 80s and lower 90s in the Great Plains Region and the Mississippi Valley. (The National Weather Summary)
1989 - Thunderstorms developing along a stationary front produced severe weather in south central Texas and the Southern High Plains Region during the afternoon and evening hours. Thunderstorms produced softball size hail at Spearman and Hitchcock, TX. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)
1990 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front produced severe weather from northwest Texas to western Missouri. Severe thunderstorms spawned seventeen tornadoes, including nine in Texas. Four tornadoes in Texas injured a total of nine persons. Thunderstorms in Texas also produced hail four inches in diameter at Shamrock, and hail four and a half inches in diameter near Guthrie. Thunderstorms over northeastern Kansas produced more than seven inches of rain in Chautauqua County between 9 PM and midnight. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)
is this also the day of the month that has gotten the most rain?
My dear Dad passed away on 5/14/2014 and I always remember it as the rainiest day and that entire spring/summer was extremely rainy.
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47 minutes ago, Sundog said:
+1 to +3 over the warmest period on record (1991-2020) is the new normal. The next 30 year climate period coming out in 2031 is going to be an inferno.
but it's leaning on higher mins, so not really an inferno, more like a slow bake oven.
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2 hours ago, Sundog said:
I remember that because of a NE wind on the North Shore farther west on the island, we had a shallow inverted layer that kept our winds in check. I think LGA recorded the lowest gusts out of all the stations.
^Yes, meanwhile Kennedy and Long Beach were up around 80 mph.
Higher than December 1992 but not anywhere near the amount of damage because December 1992 lasted for 3-5 days.
They really need to name these long lasting historic noreasters, they cause more damage here than hurricanes do.
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1 hour ago, Sundog said:
I remember being in the pool, blue skies and sunny overhead and a towering black cloud just to my east, with some crazy loud thunder even reaching me from that storm.
There was a really good video from Nassau that showed huge hailstones but I can't find it. This one is from Queens that day. Look at the hailstone that falls around 28 seconds. That's a solid baseball:
The northern Queens hailstorm I remember from the 90s had very small hailstones (hail pebbles?) but they fell for several hours and accumulated up to a foot, that's why snow plows were required.
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1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:
I missed that one, I was working in New Hyde Park at the time but wasn’t at work. I have only seen pea sized hail twice on the island. I have seen quarter size in central Jersey and the golf ball storm in Texas. Gorilla hail is on my weather bucket list.
Don't jinx yourself, one day you'll be hit by a megaicycryometeor!!
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2 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:
Yeah seems very early for that type of heat. That’s the exact reason I could never live in Texas. It’s only going to get worse, it’s almost like winter here in that you don’t go outside much when the HI is 110+. The thunderstorms in Texas are amazing though. Best thunderstorm I have ever experienced was a true super cell in Dallas. Golf ball size hail and other level lighting.
west Texas climate is much better with drier heat.
My first step in geoengineering would be to get rid of the Gulf of Mexico. Or build a mountain range on the gulf coast to cut off all that humidity.
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2 hours ago, Sundog said:
Do you remember the hailstorms in summer 2011? In Western Nassau/eastern Queens they got rocked by baseball sized hail.
I got quarter sized hail by my house by another cell that occurred a couple hours after the baseball sized hailstorm.
That must have been a north shore event.
I know there was a hail event in northern Queens years ago that required plowing to remove.
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3 hours ago, Sundog said:
Yes of course. The majority of us don't want to live in a replica of a Chinese industrial dump city.
Unfortunately the people most into the environment today are also anti nuclear and more focused on "environmental justice" instead of just keeping the air and water clean.
I blame pesticides and fertilizers more than anything. Conventional farming practices need to be reformed.
Toxic algae blooms cause massive problems in the summer.
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so glad we're not getting any of that rain they are getting south of us, flash flood emergencies and entire school buses floating away!
we've had more than enough rain.
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wow earliest shark sighting on Long Island, a Great White was sighted near Montauk!!
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20 minutes ago, Sundog said:
Not happening here, not because of anthropogenic induced warming.
That won't happen for another 700+ million years and it will be the Sun that does that, not people.
well the sun will likely vaporize the entire planet but human induced climate change will be enough to cause a rapid increase in cloud cover.
we won't be on this planet in 1 million years let alone 700 million
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4 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:
There is some truth to that. If you look back at periods that had similar CO2 levels and resultant temps 5c warmer then current. The poles were warm enough to support forrests. Warming is much more pronounced closer to the poles.
I'm thinking a lesser version of Venus will develop eventually, maybe even permanent cloud cover. With 70% of the surface covered in oceans, it's not even that much of a stretch.
The permanent cloud cover will help even out the temperatures across the planet so that's a way of planetary self regulation too, not that we want that lol.
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2 hours ago, bluewave said:
The most impressive heat this month is up by International Falls. So an early clue as to where the strongest summer heat may be focused closest to the drought feedback zones in the Western U.S. to the Plains. The new all-time May high of 96° would be the same as 100° here in May.
RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DULUTH MN 414 AM CDT MON MAY 12 2025 ...RECORD DAILY AND MONTHLY HIGH TEMPERATURES SET AT INTERNATIONAL FALLS MN YESTERDAY... A RECORD DAILY HIGH TEMPERATURE FOR MAY 11 OF 96 DEGREES WAS SET AT INTERNATIONAL FALLS MN YESTERDAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 83 DEGREES SET IN 1991 AND TIED IN 1993. A RECORD MONTHLY HIGH TEMPERATURE FOR THE MONTH OF MAY WAS ALSO SET AT INTERNATIONAL FALLS YESTERDAY. THE HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 96 DEGREES YESTERDAY BREAKS THE PREVIOUS RECORD OF 95 DEGREES SET ON MAY 21 1964.
Our May and Junes used to be much hotter in the 50s and 60s, we hit 99 in May 1962 if I remember correctly and 100 in June 1953.
Yes, this is all off the top of my head.... I remember numbers very well and I'm not old enough yet for my memory to be fading (knock on wood lol).
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1 hour ago, bluewave said:
We are really lucky that we haven’t had a severe summer drought with westerly winds in this much warmer climate. Some of most impressive warmth over the last decade has occurred during the winter. When we hit 80° back in February 2018 it was a 4° jump over any previous February high. In the summer that would translate into 112° at Newark, 110° to 111° at LGA or the warmer zone near Corona, Queens.
By the way this has come close to happening in the past.
I present to you Summer 1966 and Summer 2011
Summer 1966
Newark 105
Central Park 103
LaGuardia 107
Kennedy 104
Note that in Summer 1966 Central Park was also cooler than Kennedy, was that also a foliage issue?
Summer 2011
Newark 108
Central Park 104
Kennedy 103
(I don't remember the La Guardia high temperature from July 2011 off the top of my head.)
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1 hour ago, bluewave said:
We are really lucky that we haven’t had a severe summer drought with westerly winds in this much warmer climate. Some of most impressive warmth over the last decade has occurred during the winter. When we hit 80° back in February 2018 it was a 4° jump over any previous February high. In the summer that would translate into 112° at Newark, 110° to 111° at LGA or the warmer zone near Corona, Queens.
If thats what it takes to get JFK to 104-105, I'm fine with Newark hitting 110+
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1 hour ago, bluewave said:
We are really lucky that we haven’t had a severe summer drought with westerly winds in this much warmer climate. Some of most impressive warmth over the last decade has occurred during the winter. When we hit 80° back in February 2018 it was a 4° jump over any previous February high. In the summer that would translate into 112° at Newark, 110° to 111° at LGA or the warmer zone near Corona, Queens.
summer heat is a lot of fun because we get to go to the beach, there's plenty of water in the ocean to enjoy ;-)
CC is actually setting a limit as to how hot our summers can get unfortunately. The sky is the limit with winter though-- at some point, we'll lose our seasons and there won't be a big difference between winter and summer, you're already seeing that with fall just becoming an extension of summer.
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3 hours ago, bluewave said:
JFK is currently experiencing the longest 100° day drought on record at 4316 days due to the increased onshore flow since 2013.
Number of Consecutive Days Max Temperature < 100
for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.Period of record: 1948-07-17 to 2025-05-12 1 4316 2013-07-19 through 2025-05-12 2 4016 1999-07-06 through 2010-07-03 3 4009 1972-07-24 through 1983-07-15 4 3610 1983-08-21 through 1993-07-08 5 2210 1966-07-05 through 1972-07-22 6 2185 1993-07-11 through 1999-07-04 7 963 1960-05-02 through 1962-12-20 8 857 1955-03-18 through 1957-07-21 9 817 1951-11-07 through 1954-01-31 10 736 1948-08-28 through 1950-09-02 well it has to break sometime Chris, but note as I pointed out before, thee period have been getting longer since 1966.... I believe our extreme high temps are leveling off and flatlining, because the earth is self regulating our summertime high temps, we'll likely reach a ceiling and not get any higher than that. That number is higher for inland areas, but at whatever level, we'll all eventually reach a ceiling and temperatures won't get any higher than that.
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9 minutes ago, SACRUS said:
Records:
Highs:
EWR: 92 (1956)
NYC: 89 (1956)
LGA: 89 (1956)
JFK: 82 (2004)
Lows:
EWR: 37 (1938)
NYC: 39 (1895)
LGA: 42 (2019)
JFK: 41 (2020)
Historical:
1930 - A man was killed when caught in an open field during a hailstorm northwest of Lubbock TX. It was the first, and perhaps the only, authentic death by hail in U.S. weather records. (David Ludlum)
1980: An F3 tornado ripped directly through the center of Kalamazoo, Michigan, killing five people, injuring 79, leaving 1,200 homeless and causing $50 million in damage. The tornado passed directly over the American Bank, where a barograph reported a pressure drop of 0.59 inches.
1981 - A tornado 450 yards in width destroyed ninety percent of Emberson TX. People did not see a tornado, but rather a wall of debris. Homes were leveled, a man in a bathtub was hurled a quarter of a mile, and a 1500 pound recreational vehicle was hurled 500 yards. Miraculously no deaths occurred in the tornado. (The Weather Channel)
1987 - A cold front brought an end to the early season warm spell in the north central U.S., but not before the temperature at Sioux City IA soared to a record warm 95 degrees. Strong southwesterly winds ahead of the cold front gusted to 52 mph at Marais MI. Evening thunderstorms produced golf ball size hail at Rockford MN, and wind gusts to 75 mph at Belmond IA. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)
1988 - Strong winds along a cold front ushering cold air into the northwestern U.S. gusted to 69 mph at Myton UT. Temperatures warmed into the 80s ahead of the cold front, as far north as Montana. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)
1989 - Thunderstorms developing along a warm front produced severe weather in the Southern Plains Region during the afternoon and night. A thunderstorm at Killeen TX produced wind gusts to 95 mph damaging 200 helicopters at Fort Hood causing nearly 500 million dollars damage. Another thunderstorm produced softball size hail at Hodges TX. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)
1990 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front spawned ten tornadoes from eastern Wyoming to northern Kansas, including seven in western Nebraska. Thunderstorms forming ahead of a cold front in the eastern U.S. spawned five tornadoes from northeastern North Carolina to southern Pennsylvania. Thunderstorms over southeast Louisiana deluged the New Orleans area with four to eight inches of rain between 7 AM and Noon. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)
1995: This outbreak produced tornadoes extending from the Mississippi River near Burlington, Iowa, to the west of Bloomington, Illinois. Two violent tornadoes, each ranked at F4 intensity, were reported. The first tornado traveled 60 miles from near Fort Madison, Iowa, to the southeast of Galesburg, Illinois producing over $10 million damage. The town of Raritan, Illinois was hit the hardest. The second violent tornado traveled 7 miles across Fulton County from Ipava to Lewistown, Illinois producing $6 million damage. Another strong tornado took a 25-mile path across parts of Fulton, Mason, and Tazewell Counties. The storms also produced softball-size hail south and northwest of Macomb in Illinois. Five men were injured in Lawrence County, Indiana when lightning struck one of them and traveled to the other four. There were 184 reports of severe weather, including over three dozen tornadoes.
2001: Two brothers hiking with their family in the Zion National Park in Utah were swept away when flash flooding suddenly struck after a burst of heavy rain. The youngsters were ahead of the rest of their family when they came to a part of the trail that was underwater. They were swept away as they attempted the cross the flooded part of the trail.
JFK: 41 (2020)
wild how cold 2020 still was so late in the season.
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49 minutes ago, bluewave said:
It looks like we are on track for no 90° days this month at the warmer spots like Newark which usually get them. So if the past experience continues with the exception of 1983 which was a super El Niño, this summer won’t see as many 90° days as the big years like 2022 and 2010 did. So an under 40 days reaching 90° season. But we could still see warm intervals and even 100° heat away from the shore with another warmer than average summer. Though the greatest heat may be back closer to the Plains and West this summer where the strongest drought feedback currently is.
All May years at Newark with no 90° days
Monthly Number of Days Max Temperature >= 90 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ with no 90° days in May
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.2020 0 0 5 17 9 0 0 31 2014 0 0 2 8 2 3 0 15 2009 3 0 0 1 10 0 0 14 2008 0 0 6 11 2 3 0 22 2005 0 0 10 11 12 4 0 37 2003 0 0 5 8 7 0 0 20 1997 0 0 7 10 3 0 0 20 1990 2 0 5 9 9 1 0 26 1989 0 0 4 12 8 3 0 27 1984 0 0 8 6 8 0 0 22 1983 0 0 7 15 11 7 0 40 1982 0 0 1 10 1 0 0 12 1976 2 0 7 2 4 0 0 15 1973 0 0 5 9 12 5 0 31 1972 0 0 0 16 4 1 0 21 1971 0 0 6 7 7 2 0 22 1968 0 0 4 9 9 1 0 23 1967 0 0 5 1 1 0 0 7 1966 0 0 10 14 8 1 0 33 1963 0 0 6 11 3 0 0 20 1961 0 0 4 13 8 9 0 34 1960 1 0 3 2 8 1 0 15 1958 0 0 2 11 6 2 0 21 1954 0 0 5 10 3 0 0 18 1952 0 0 8 17 2 4 0 31 1950 0 0 8 6 3 1 0 18 1946 0 0 5 5 2 0 0 12 1940 0 0 2 11 1 1 0 15 1938 0 0 4 4 9 0 1 18 looks like Newark barely got there in 1983 but was the hottest summer at both NYC and JFK until 1991 and 1993 for NYC and 2010 for JFK.
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47 minutes ago, bluewave said:
It looks like we are on track for no 90° days this month at the warmer spots like Newark which usually get them. So if the past experience continues with the exception of 1983 which was a super El Niño, this summer won’t see as many 90° days as the big years like 2022 and 2010 did. So an under 40 days reaching 90° season. But we could still see warm intervals and even 100° heat away from the shore with another warmer than average summer. Though the greatest heat may be back closer to the Plains and West this summer where the strongest drought feedback currently is.
All May years at Newark with no 90° days
Monthly Number of Days Max Temperature >= 90 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ with no 90° days in May
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.2020 0 0 5 17 9 0 0 31 2014 0 0 2 8 2 3 0 15 2009 3 0 0 1 10 0 0 14 2008 0 0 6 11 2 3 0 22 2005 0 0 10 11 12 4 0 37 2003 0 0 5 8 7 0 0 20 1997 0 0 7 10 3 0 0 20 1990 2 0 5 9 9 1 0 26 1989 0 0 4 12 8 3 0 27 1984 0 0 8 6 8 0 0 22 1983 0 0 7 15 11 7 0 40 1982 0 0 1 10 1 0 0 12 1976 2 0 7 2 4 0 0 15 1973 0 0 5 9 12 5 0 31 1972 0 0 0 16 4 1 0 21 1971 0 0 6 7 7 2 0 22 1968 0 0 4 9 9 1 0 23 1967 0 0 5 1 1 0 0 7 1966 0 0 10 14 8 1 0 33 1963 0 0 6 11 3 0 0 20 1961 0 0 4 13 8 9 0 34 1960 1 0 3 2 8 1 0 15 1958 0 0 2 11 6 2 0 21 1954 0 0 5 10 3 0 0 18 1952 0 0 8 17 2 4 0 31 1950 0 0 8 6 3 1 0 18 1946 0 0 5 5 2 0 0 12 1940 0 0 2 11 1 1 0 15 1938 0 0 4 4 9 0 1 18 places like JFK could still hit 100 degrees, you just need a direct westerly flow for a few days. We had this in 1977 in what was otherwise a not so hot summer.
we also hit 100 degrees after la ninas (note 2011).
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1 minute ago, bluewave said:
Yeah, that was the elevation snows back in 2013.
https://weather.com/storms/winter/news/snow-new-england-new-york-weekend-20130527
Yes, it was like 41-42 degrees here and it even looked like graupel here lol.
What a raw miserable day that was!
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3 minutes ago, bluewave said:
Over the last 10 years there have been many extended Memorial Day weekends with at least some measurable rainfall on at least one day. This has been par for the course. Maybe related to all the blocking in Canada this time of year coupled with the tendency for lows to cutoff. We can all remember the record low maxes a few years ago.
Newark Area, NJ
Period of record: 1931-01-01 through 2025-05-12DateLowest maximum temperatures (degrees F)Top Record 2nd Record 3rd Record5/29 52 in 2021 60 in 1950 60 in 1940 5/30 53 in 2021 53 in 1953 59 in 2017
Didn't we have sleet or snow or graupel on a Memorial Day weekend a few years ago? I forgot what year it was but before 2013 I think?
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36 minutes ago, bluewave said:
1993 was the leader in 95° and 100° days at Newark. You can see how much warmer our summers have become since 2010. Even though 2010 and 1993 still stand at the top, many other years haven’t been far behind. This is mostly due to the onshore flow influence. If we ever got westerly flow and a real summer drought, then this records would easily be eclipsed in this much warmer climate than 2010 and 1993.
95° days at Newark
Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Jan through Dec
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.1 1993 25 0 2 2010 21 0 3 2022 20 0 - 1988 20 0 - 1944 20 0 4 2021 18 0 5 2012 17 0 - 2011 17 0 - 2002 17 0 - 1955 17 0 6 1949 16 0 7 2005 14 0 - 1953 14 0 8 2016 13 0 - 1999 13 0 - 1991 13 0 - 1987 13 0 9 1994 12 0 - 1983 12 0 - 1966 12 0 10 2018 11 0 - 1973 11 0 100° days
Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Jan through Dec
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.1 1993 9 0 2 1949 8 0 3 2022 6 0 - 1953 6 0 4 1988 5 0 - 1966 5 0 5 2011 4 0 - 2010 4 0 - 1955 4 0 - 1944 4 0 I wonder if it will be one of the 11 year cycle years. As you know we have had some of our hottest summers in 11 year cycles, 1933, 1944, 1955, 1966, 1977, 1988, 1999, 2010. We didn't get it in 2021 as expected, but as you mentioned 2022 would have fit this pattern too, so maybe it's not exactly 11 years but close? Of course 1993 doesn't fit this pattern either, but other factors might have been in play to make that summer very hot (like 1980, 1983 and 2002.) So the next time frame to look for that kind of ultrahot summer would be between 2032 and 2034.
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43 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:
Euro shows quite a cool memorial day weekend. Hopefully it doesn't rain at least.
75-80 with sunny skies and a light breeze would be quite perfect .
May 2025
in New York City Metro
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so all this cut off crap is caused by the big ridge in the west?
why don't we get this in the winter anymore-- ridge in the west trough in the east?
I can easily forecast a mild snowless winter, because that's when we'll get the ridge in the east lol. Whatever the summer is, the winter tends to be opposite.