WestMichigan

One of my favorite places in Ohio. I went down there many times in the winter when I used to live in Ohio.

https://www.christianpost.com/voices/suicide-hotline-sees-8000-increase-due-to-covid-19.html https://abc7.com/suicide-hotline-calls-coronavirus-covid19-los-angeles/6117099/ https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/mental-health/494170-how-does-the-coronavirus-pandemic-affect-suicide https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-pandemic-creates-suicide-risk-this-could-last-years/ar-BB13kSOE There are varying numbers in these articles but all showing a large increase.

Mental health and suicide hotlines are up over 900% since this started. Where is the balance between every life we can save from COVID-19 is worth the pain versus we don't care about the other lives being lost to suicide. Somewhere there has to be a balance where some freedom is ok to help with one end of the spectrum while not getting the other end completely out of whack. The media seems to be ignoring one class of death because it isn't COVID-19 and that is all that matters.

I agree but also think she might go a little farther. Don't think it will be anywhere near a free for all but I suspect there will be limited things open up such a landscaping, nurseries/greenhouses, workers who are solo or maybe teams but not large groups. Just my thoughts. I guess we will see in a little over a week.

Quite the turn around between March and April relative to average.

What is up with all the name calling in here. Anyone who doesn't agree with the stay at home order is a moron, idiot, <insert derogatory name here>. We can disagree buy why all the name calling?

I am a little confused. Compared with your post from last 4/12 the cases per day are down a little. Nothing dramatic but down about 150/day on average. I agree deaths are ticking up.

It has been snowing all morning here, but no accumulation. Melting as fast as it falls.

If you like some country better than here why not move? Everyone is constantly telling people to move north if they want more snow. Same thing here. If you want a completely different government move. There is no sense staying in a miserable place when there is somewhere else that offers something far superior to what you have now.

There aren't enough tax dollars available even if we taxed at ridiculous rates to support something like that. Unless you want the government to say give me 100% of your money and I will determine how much you get back then explain how that would work? That is unless you want to switch to an entirely different form of government and in that case I'm going to pass on that.

It's the NAM, cut it in half.

That minority came largely from a Facebook group that represents approximately 350000 Michiganders. While still a minority by definition that is over 3.5% of the state. That is a pretty good group of people banding together to make a statement. They are not pure idiots and not stupid as people here are saying. They want a fair chance to earn a living just like you and me and again as I have said several times before a little common sense. This virus is nasty. I agree but is the cure worse than the symptoms? I can't answer that for you but these people obviously made their choice. This is a free country and people can make choices. Denigrating one side constantly does no good. Let's give them a chance to make their voice heard just like you feel you have a right for your voice to be heard.

Speculation at best. I know there have been many wild predictions but we have no idea what really would have happened. We can all agree it would have been different for sure.

Death rate is a lagging indicator. It will go down soon since there are clearly fewer people getting sick.

What makes a government clerk any more important than a construction worker. Without either our society wouldn’t function like it does. The problem with unemployment is it doesn’t pay the bills. And where are they getting the money? People aren’t working so it isn’t income taxes. We are just mortgaging our future. I know you want to get in a fight with me but all I want is common sense restrictions that are equally applied. This isn’t a disease to ignore. I am not saying that. Lots of people have it and many have died. I am not disputing that but how does a single self employed construction worker have to quit working when he is working by himself in an unoccupied home? Like I said apply common sense and people will be less irritated.

Or better yet don’t get it cut like the rest of us.

I am not expecting perfection, just common sense. If the government can keep working then why can't everyone else? Oh wait, they aren't essential, but when my neighbor loses his job and can't feed his family tell me that isn't essential to him. Who gets to decide? Oh wait, it is those in power and they generally hurt others long before they feel any pain themselves. When is the governor going to say I will take a pay cut or no salary? When are the Lt. Governor or state representatives and senators or a myriad of other people in higher places going to stand with the common folk and live by the same rules and restrictions. How many press conferences do you see people standing closer than 6 feet? Or the mayor of Chicago getting a hair cut while everyone else can't, or ... the list could go on. Be reasonable, have equal rules for all and apply some common sense and I think there would be a lot less complaining among the citizens.

But it is ok for someone from out of state to go to a cabin/cottage they own in Michigan? Or it is OK for 6 road workers to be standing in a circle shoulder to shoulder talking about something while working to repair the roads? The rules only apply to those the governor wants them to and there are clearly some who do not fall under the rules like the rest of us.

Me too. Had a short period of pea size but it didn't last long. Lake Michigan for the win last night!

Just hit 70 here. Lake shadow will probably limit things here, but no guarantee.

If you look worldwide at the number of those who are now clear after having had the virus or died the death rate is 20%. Not sure how reliable that is but that is a very high number.

Michigan with a crazy high 1953 new cases and 62 deaths in the last 24 hours.

10791 cases and 417 deaths in MI today. Up 1457 and 80 respectively. Not really slowing down any here. Although it is slightly less than yesterday in terms of new cases.

1719 new cases in Michigan today. Definitely not hitting our peak yet.

Italy seems to have peaked. Not going down fast, but the top seems to be in.