WestMichigan

Time for @buckeye to post something like this 

9 hours ago, Hoosier said:

It does sound like local/county officials will have the ability to enact masking/other restrictions in Texas.  If that's the case, that is a bit of positive news.

Local authorities and private businesses can do whatever they want.  This was just lifting the state mandate.  If Best Buy says you have to wear a mask they still have that right.

C-/D+ here.  Nowhere near normal snow with November, December, and January having almost no snow.  February rescued this winter from being an F.

I wonder when the last time this happened, if ever - Lansing with more snow than Muskegon.

52 minutes ago, Angrysummons said:

Nobody is wearing a mask this summer that doesn't want to wear one.

I hope you are correct.

10 hours ago, Stebo said:

You like me and most everyone else have concern for others which is why it is a good idea.

Not trying to pick a fight, but why didn't you do this before Covid?  This goes for anyone saying it is such a great idea.  Masks have been around for a long time but suddenly they have become essential?

12 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Since it was mentioned, this is approximately what Dec-Feb will look like.  I know everybody had the southern US colder than average in this Nina winter.  

 

Wat is up with that red spot east of Whichita Falls, TX surrounded by a sea of green?

29 minutes ago, dilly84 said:

Further did cmh even reach its average for snowfall on the winter?

26.6" so far at CMH.  6.1" ahead of normal so far.  Not entirely sure what normal is for CMH but it seems to me they will be very close either side of normal when the snow year finishes.

Melting is kicking in to high gear today.  42 and dripping everywhere.

You can tell the areas that are doing well.  Quite a few deficits as you go north.  Crazy southern Great Lakes storm track dominating this winter.

Just now, WHEATCENT said:

the NAM is showing a mix when its in the mid 20s

possible?

Yes. Depends on the upper atmosphere layers

You average a lot more than me, but cut that deficit in half and that is where I will be.  I would be happy at this point to make it to 50% of average since it would be an amazing comeback in February/March to an overall bad season.

Kinda sad that the west side of Lake Michigan is seeing as much if not more LES than the east side this year.

lake keystone is to the west of Tulsa

15 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

Heavy snow now

I thought it didn't snow in Indy.

My brother in Caldwell (SE Ohio) measured 9.5" this morning. Nice little surprise for them.  WTOD normally kills most snow over there but this time the cold and suppression helped bring a nice snow to that part of the state.

3 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

Yep, we got a 0.4" of sugar here on 0.03" liquid. Gave a glitter to the snowpack. Josh's snowfall chart:

wet snow or slushy snow (mild out)

dense snow (mild out, similar to wet snow but no melting of any kind on pavement)

sandy or sugary snow (cold but low ratio snow due to small flakes)

powder (my favorite if I had to pick. usually 12-14:1 ratio)

fluff (15-20:1 ratio snow)

air fluff (20+ : 1 ratio snow)

 

About 3.5” over here yesterday through last night. Nice to see winter showing up. 

15 minutes ago, frostfern said:

Total IMBY is for the synoptic event is right around 6".  I think about 3 fell in the WAA event, then there was a "warm sector lull" as the center of the low passed nearby, then the cold front swung through with an additional burst that added up another 3".  It was pretty wet and heavy shoveling.  Definitely more synaptic than lake effect.  Also a lot of accumulation on tree branches, signs, etc... despite 40 mph+ wind gusts last night.  Think it's frozen on.

Lake effect has underpeformed.  Just very light mood flakes.  Kinda positioned between bands all day.  Less than an inch so far.  Might pick up in intensity or at least fill in some this evening though.

LES has been alternating between light and moderate/heavy all day.  No way of measuring when my yard is either bare grass or a drift.  Looking forward to more this evening and overnight.

5 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Look at those lakes firing!

Enjoy.  Kind of jealous but enjoying what we are getting here.

22 minutes ago, purduewx80 said:

Kinda hard to see on the composite, but the TMKE terminal Doppler reveals that industry in WI is contributing to the heavier lake effect bands affecting areas near and NW of GRR this morning. 

Never heard of that.  Interesting to see the connection.

Just got upped to a Winter Storm Warning from an advisory here. Looking good for up to a foot with LES by Saturday.

1 hour ago, cyclone77 said:

Man there was so much new material to read when I got home it was almost overwhelming lol.  Nice turnaround from earlier in the winter. 

Still waiting on the turnaround of this side of Lake Michigan. Even the UP is hurting for snow. Looks like this week and next might at least make a dent in the deficit.

45 minutes ago, HighTechEE said:

Last year 2019-20 I never touched my snow blower, but did some minor shoveling a couple times. This winter, haven't touched my shovel yet! 

I can almost match you.  I just put my plow on Sunday.  I have shoveled 1 time all year.  Sad this is I probably average at least double your yearly snowfall.

4 minutes ago, RogueWaves said:

I've got SEMI beat wrt "most pathetic winter". Y'all don't know what horrid is, trust me.

What is your YTD total?

8 minutes ago, frostfern said:

Lake effect is always weird in terms of measurement.  Very high winds can cut down on the fluff factor, as can a low DGZ causing more plate-dominant snow.  Think you'd need 25:1 ratio at least to get three feet out of any model output.  Lake effect is always better than 10:1, but you need temps in the mid 20s and wind under 15 mph to get the crazy 20:1 ratio dendrite-dominant feather-fluff.  Even then it doesn't really feel like as much as the official measurement because when it gets deeper than 6" it settles fast under it's own weight even within 6-12 hours of falling.

You just described LES fairly well.  The fluff factor is something most people outside the lakes don't really comprehend.  The nearly 80" I average in a normal year here is not like Iowa getting 80" in a year.  Look at WeatherBo.  He gets 200"+ but depth never gets anywhere near that.