WestMichigan

3 hours ago, A-L-E-K said:

absolute mashed potato brains^

Call me what you want.  My company has hired 245 people in the last month alone.

4 hours ago, fujiwara79 said:

I guess most economists are also engaging in hyperbole because they’re worried about the same thing.  The economy has slowed down big time since the summer.  That’s irrefutable. 

Has it?  I am not an economist, but I haven't seen that locally.  Maybe you have?  

7 hours ago, WaryWarren said:

I'm dreaming of a Brown Christmas...

I am wondering if I can make it the entire month of December and still have no measurable snow for the season.  GFS is saying I have a chance at it.

2 minutes ago, IWXwx said:

...and here you go.

https://www.wane.com/news/covid-patient-tells-doctor-all-22-people-at-thanksgiving-dinner-have-since-tested-positive/

And there were 11 at Thanksgiving where we went and we are all healthy. There are more of those stories than what you are sharing for sure. 

When will this system finally be fully sampled?

GFS is a little faster and slightly SE of 12Z.  Still a little warm here but baby steps.  Now if it can continue a little more SE.

54 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Any life lost is tragic, but as far as deaths of despair brought on by the pandemic, I am guessing that number is nowhere near 280,000 right now.

I think the "is the cure worse than the disease" debate gets more interesting if you factor everything else in... financial hardships, kids struggling to adapt, etc, although I would argue that if we took the let it rip approach and were sitting on 500,000 deaths right now, that would have its own effects. 

I agree, but that article was only about one piece of the puzzle.  There are many more factors like you said and in places like Japan, there were more suicides in October than COVID deaths all year combined.  I know they have a high suicide rate to begin with but that is a crazy statistic.

NAM says congrats MSP.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/327311/americans-mental-health-ratings-sink-new-low.aspx?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=855206&refcd=855206&utm_source=RevelantResources&seid=

No one really wants to talk about it, but how many lives can we lose as "collateral damage" and no even bother to question it?  These mental health statistics are just the tip of the iceberg.  Is the cure worse than the disease?  I don't know.

10 minutes ago, ILSNOW said:

10:1 snow map clearly overdone (prolly cut it in half)

My snow drought might continue.  Ridiculous cutoff across my county.

Looks like wagons north is the early theme today.  RDPS is north along with the NAM.

1 minute ago, SchaumburgStormer said:

06z gfs agrees with the 00z euro on the low track, but wildly different sensible weather solutions.  

Only 16 more model runs until we see what really happens.

45 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

It will only get worse as the week goes on. 

Take a break from this. You need it. 

GRR is toying with me

 

We are still expecting a system to affect the area in the Friday
through Sunday time frame. There are multiple upper troughs and
cut off lows that come together in some fashion to bring the low
to the lakes this weekend. The first trough is currently in the
middle of the Pacific with a cut off low dropping south near
Southern California. The waves come together over the plains on
Friday with a low moving through the Great Lakes in the Saturday
time frame. At this point, looking at the operational models, the
Canadian is furthest northwest moving a low through Wisconsin. The
GFS is more of a middle of the road track, moving the low through
the GRR forecast area. The ECMWF is further southeast, tracking
the low through Southeast Lower Michigan. 12z European ensemble
low locations Saturday evening are starting to zero in on the
southern Great Lakes area for the track of the low, so leaning
towards a GFS or ECMWF solution.

What this means is we are looking at a potentially impactful
system this weekend with a rain to snow type of scenario. Wind is
also in play depending on the depth of the low. Way too early to
nail down any details at this point with this system, but we are
certainly watching it. It appears we are looking at a period of
lake effect snow as well on the backside, Sunday into Monday.
More to come this week as details emerge.

I have had a trace on a couple of occasions, but unless it fell and night and melted before I could see it in the morning there hasn't been anything measurable.  Look at the snow maps, there is a donut hole around this part of the state.

25 minutes ago, Cary67 said:

Euro magic

I'll take that since I am one of the few remaining people in this sub to have not had a measurable snowfall yet this season.

For those of you fixated on only one aspect of this pandemic - the raw numbers, this health crisis is so often overlooked. 

http:// https://apnews.com/article/anxiety-mental-health-boston-coronavirus-pandemic-massachusetts-004adb5ee0ef17ff4b5e2e294e36ff3d

Is the GFS trying to model a clipper at the end of the run?  That would be a nice change if that really happens.

9 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Pretty scene after the sun rose with the moon still out this morning. With abundant sunshine expected so is melting.

Bare ground by evening?

43 minutes ago, Snowstorms said:

It's been active...

Today is our third storm or weather event, whatever you want to call it, since Nov 22. Potential for a 4th this weekend but it'll likely end up east of the subforum. STJ is quite active right now, surprisingly for a La Nina, while the polar jet remains suppressed. 

Guess I was referring to places west of you.  For example in my area snowfall stats.

GRR 

SINCE JUL 1      0.4                       7.3   -6.9      6.8

MKG

SINCE JUL 1      1.2                       6.2   -5.0     10.9

Precip stats are also on the drier side during this time period.

I thought La Nina years were supposed to be active.  This snoozefest needs to go.

7 hours ago, fujiwara79 said:

If only 20% of the country has been infected, that's basically proof that masks and distancing work.  We'd undoubtedly be at 40% at least without those measures.

Why not 60% or 75%?  Pure speculation at best. Give some reasoning please. 

4 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

Whats sad is this pandemic is so easy to control. We just need need a willing government and people 

If this were true why are so many countries struggling then?

7 minutes ago, dan11295 said:

Wisconsin and Michigan both came it with much lower numbers at least.

This is 5 days or so in a row with declining numbers in Michigan.  Not sure if it is a trend or a blip.