CapturedNature

I guess most co-ops these days do that but when I was a co-op observer I always measured at the end of the snowfall. I believe the guy in Staffordville does that but some of his totals baffle me as too high since we are so closer. I honestly feel like his gets snow blown off the lake when that happens...lol. Your point about a homogeneous record is why I did not support the adoption of the method but for those that have been doing it for nearly 20 years should continue to do so. For me personally, I stuck with the old method for just such as reason.

That's the same argument I recall back in the 90s when this "standard" came into being. Many of us argued that it would be impossible to compare systems from the past due to different measuring standards. I, for one, started keeping records with the current standard and never adopted sweeping and measuring every 6 hours specifically so I could compare one storm with another. Likewise, I can compare with anyone else that measures at the end of snowfall. Personally, I think it should never have been implemented but that ship has long sailed and we have a mix now.

I think you're misunderstanding my questioning. The forecast was not good for the valley and hasn't been for the past several storms. I also don't think anyone is cheating if they are measuring the same way they have for 30+ years. I think that's the only way that you can compare one storm to another and one measurement to another. That's what I'm questioning so I can compare one measurement with another. The "on the ground" debate is another story for another thread.

yeah, that's what I was thinking when I saw the 2.5" amounts. They just seem low. I measured 10.2" a couple of hours ago. That 13" seems high but technically he is a little further east than I am and that band was so close it's possible. Looks like a couple more inches since then and it's snowing nicely. I wonder how much we'll pick up overnight....

I'm wondering how some of those really low totals in the valley were measured. I know they got less snow but I had a wide variety of measurements whether I measured on pavement, cement, grass, car, picnic table, truck bed or on my snowboard. My "official" spot is my snow board and that's what goes in the record but I also got much lower readings on any of the ground measurements so I'm wondering if some of those measurements reflect measurements on the ground as opposed to a board? Nice light snow now...hopefully add some more overnight.

Just under 5" here. It's probably twice that just east of me but I'll take what I can get. Been snowing nicely all day.

It affected western New England too. As you climbed west of the CT River Valley the snow picked up. I know the pike was mess just west of Westfield and Norfolk, CT had close to a foot. Even here the rain was mixed with snow for a good portion of the day. Outside of the early nature of the storm, the fact that there was also a late April event meant there was a very short window between the last snowfall and the first one.

The people I talk to say you're doing a good job. Keep it up!

I just found out that my brother is going to be flight from NYC to LA during the eclipse. He's wondering what side of the plane he should be on for the best view. Unfortunately because of the timing of the flight I don't think he will ever be in the totality line. When I look at the flight path, it looks like the path of totality will be north of his flight path but is looking to the north the best side to be on or is it on the south side so you could see the sun or am I wrong about that? I'm hoping the collective here can give me some advice to pass on to him. I'm attaching his flight path along with the eclipse map. Note that his flight leaves about 10AM ET and will be crossing the totality line around 10:30-11 CT I'm guessing.

I think this page has a picture of the guys yard: http://hartfordmewx.info/stationbio.html 7/2 and 7/12 average lower than days around them but it's really not a period of "cooler" weather like January. Micro climates can be really neat. I've long known about places that are the cold hollows or places that keep snow the longest and they are often not the same places. I have a pretty good spot which is a happy medium of the two. We just bought some land in another part of town mostly for the maple trees but we might build there...I just need to make sure I'm not losing anything.

Most of the posts I see are about how great the weather is and it is because it hasn't been humid for the most part. I don't see talk of it being cool but it has been below normal. June is a summer month and it was solidly below normal - ranked #7 coolest for me since 1985. May, although not a summer month was also #7 coolest. 4 of the past 7 days were below normal. Are we supposed to ignore that and say it's been normal? If I look at the GEFS for one model, it looks pretty normal to me and if the humidity is down, that might allow the mins to go below normal continuing the overall trend: http://www.meteoguru.com/en/pro/ensembles/?latlon=41.99,-72.31

85° is the normal max next week at BDL so 83-87 is spot on normal. He's also got 60-64 for the min and 62-63° is the average so it's either going to wind up spot on normal or slightly below. 62° at BDL would keep the hills in the 50s at night which is perfect for sleeping and early evening activities outside.

I wish we had the opposite and had a late July "cool down"...lol. I have an 18 day plateau each July but if I look at the "raw" averages of given days, there is a peak around 7/19 and 8/4 of 84°. Most days in-between are around 81°. Your climate sounds great to me but I'm also glad I'm not in the valley where it averages 3-4° warmer than me.

I don't have my data in front of me but I've put up negative departures several of the past few days, mostly on the minimums. Everyone I've talked to is loving this weather and is out doing things in it. They are not waiting for more humid weather. It's perfect weather to have warm days and lows in the 50s. FWIW, my 30+ year climate normal for 7/5 is 80/58. My lows have been between 50 and 54. I reach my peak on 7/23 with 81/59 but I believe that some places, particularly up north with hit theirs shortly. I know someone posted a chart at some point with those dates in the past.

Hmmm....nice shower moving through now. Is it Friday already?

I'm just reading through old posts and getting caught up and had to chuckle at this post. I think I've seen this one year after year every summer.

At least they weren't sweaty from waiting to install them?

Did 70-75 just become near 70°? On another note, I feel bad you have to split your family up like that over a game. That sounds tough.

That map only shows the days departure, not the months. The past couple of days only moved my average temp from coldest May average to 6th coldest May since 1985.

They must have had some serious easterly flow that month - I have 4 colder May's than 2005. May 1990 & 94 were 1.8° colder than 2005 here at averaging around 51° compare to my normal of 56.6°F.

It's #5 for me and precip wise doesn't show up in the top 10. 2008 was colder and wetter for me but 1990 is near the top of the list for me.

Are you talking here and May 2005? I only had measurable precip on 14 out of 31 days in May 2005. We did have that one 7 day stretch from the 21st that it rained every day but other than that, it wasn't raining every day. I agree that May has been totally manageable at least for our locale but others have not been as lucky in terms of precip. I'm not minding the temps at all. It's been great to get stuff down outdoors and not be sweating. There's plenty of time for nice warm New England summer days before fall.

BDL may have had only 1.38" but like I said, places on the eastern edge of the valley had 1" more. I posted this earlier this year but I put up a video that my brother and I shot during the storm driving from Stafford up to Union and then on to Worcester, Hull and Boston before returning. I measured around 24" in Union in the morning and when we returned there was about 30". You can also see the transition from snow to rain and the wave action in Hull.

I can assure you that it was raining in the valley. It literally went from rain to a foot+ in about a mile as the crow flies and 800' up. One of the sharpest cutoff's I've ever seen. At my parents house in the valley we had 2.45" of QPF and 3.2" of snow. Stafford Springs (next town over and elevated) had a little over 3" of QPF. Like I said, snow ranged from around a foot in the lowest places to close to 30" in the highest.

My parents in in the valley portion of Somers only had about 3". The hills above them had over a foot....very sharp cutoff. Union had over 30" so that map is a little off. Elevation definitely played a role around here.