John1122 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago We are now into December with the OP runs. The first 7 to 10 days of December are likely to be warm, with a possible brief cold shot or two. After that, we have some potential factors that would introduce cold into the pattern. A cooperative MJO, a well place EPO ridge, a weaker than normal, if not split, SPV, all look possible as we head into the period of December 15thish towards the end of the month. See Carvers Weeklies post in the fall thread for what December looks like when the Euro has the MJO moving through more favorable areas. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago D8-14 analogs from CPC today. Really pulling for the Dec 09 thread to be THE analog. 19851121 19561203 19851116 19721207 19641123 20051202 19961113 20081214 20091207 19801203 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, Carvers Gap said: D8-14 analogs from CPC today. Really pulling for the Dec 09 thread to be THE analog. 19851121 19561203 19851116 19721207 19641123 20051202 19961113 20081214 20091207 19801203 Couple duds in there. '72-73 and 08-09. 2005-06 slightly above Temperatures with slightly below average Snowfall. Very Mild January.. 85-86 was great. below average Temps, above average Snowfall. 64-65 was average with above Snowfall. 96-97 avg Temps and Slightly below Snowfall. 08-09 slightly above Temperatures, below average Snowfall. 80-81 below Average Temps, above Snowfall. 09-10 great. Below average Temps above average Snowfall. John, you probably have more detailed information in these. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Glad 2005-06 came up. December got nutty cold. Snow blanketed much of the country. Then it got warm. December cold broke around Christmas in KCMO, which was a little disappointing. January thaw was torch. For this year, operational models are of course all over the place. Thanksgiving weekend cold front CF may actually be faster on Thanksgiving rather than the weekend. Then a few milder days are forecast before the next CF. Weekly products the CFS gets cold established for the first week of Dec, fading during the second week of Dec. The ECMWF weekly doesn't seem to acknowledge the Thanksgiving weekend CF but starts the cold west to east trek the first weekend of Dec. Putting it all together, I think the first 1-2 fronts could be brief cold intrusions. Thanksgiving weekend and then middle of the first week or weekend of December. ECMWF weekly struggles to discern the fronts that week. CFS may lock in cold a week early. Perhaps after a couple fronts chip away at the warm pattern, by December 10 give or take a couple weeks can average truly below normal temps. See if we could get that through Christmas for a third week. Siberia continues to set the table.. for after we work through the North America warm week to 10 days. Temperature anomalies, blue is cold Sfc Press anomalies, red is higher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6z Euro AIFS FTW....been wanting to post that all morning. Cloudfare had other plans. Thankfully, systems are slowly coming back online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Well, well, well...look what the 12z GFS just drug in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago The 6z Euro AIFS has some company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted 42 minutes ago Share Posted 42 minutes ago The 12z Canadian has similar set up in terms of cold. I would not be surprised to see an anafront system develop if the cold is that strong. The AIFS is 3-4 days later. Modeling is picking up on a strong cold front...timing TBD. The Tenn-Vandy game would be pretty frigid if the 12z GFS/CMC were to be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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