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Potential major phasing event this weekend


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NHC has Sandy reaching hurricane status by the time it reaches Jamaica.

What is the difference between a 70 mph tropical storm and a 80 mph hurricane? Not much unless it rapidly intensifies. Being a mountainous island, not like Hispaniola though, the flooding aspect is the biggest threat.

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When I see all the discussion about central pressure's off global model readings, I'm reminded of this discussion:

HURRICANE IRENE DISCUSSION NUMBER 23

NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092011

1100 PM EDT THU AUG 25 2011

TWO HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT...ONE AIR FORCE AND ONE NOAA...ARE

AGAIN TONIGHT SUPPLYING VERY VALUABLE METEOROLOGICAL DATA TO THE

NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER. BOTH PLANES INDICATE THAT THE CENTRAL

PRESSURE IS GRADUALLY FALLING AND IS NOW NEAR 942 MB...BUT THE

WINDS HAVE NOT INCREASED YET. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS KEPT AT 100

KNOTS AT THIS TIME. IRENE HAS MOVED AWAY FROM THE NORTHWESTERN

BAHAMAS AND IS NOW OVER OPEN WATERS. THE EYE HAS BECOME A LITTLE

BETTER DEFINED ON SATELLITE AND MICROWAVE IMAGERY AND IT APPEARS

THAT THE EYEWALL IS CONTRACTING. GIVEN THE CURRENT STRUCTURE AND

THE WARM WATERS ALONG THE TRACK OF THE HURRICANE...SOME

STRENGTHENING IS INDICATED DURING THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. A SLOW

WEAKENING SHOULD BEGIN THEREAFTER...BUT IRENE IS EXPECTED TO

APPROACH THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA A POWERFUL HURRICANE. IN

FACT...THE HIGH RESOLUTION ECMWF SHOWS A VERY INTENSE CYCLONE

APPROACHING THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST.

SATELLITE AND RECONNAISSANCE FIXES INDICATE THAT IRENE IS MOVING

TOWARD THE NORTH OR 350 DEGREES AT 12 KNOTS. THE HURRICANE IS

ALREADY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE AND IS READY TO

INTERACT WITH SOUTH-SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW AHEAD OF THE THE APPROACHING

MID-LATITUDE TROUGH. IRENE HAS NOWHERE TO GO BUT NORTHWARD WITH A

GRADUAL TURN TO THE NORTH-NORTHEAST AFTER THE CENTER CROSSES OR

PASSES NEAR THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST. THE TRACK GUIDANCE HAS BEEN

VERY CONSISTENT AND CONTINUES TO BE TIGHTLY CLUSTERED...GIVING NO

REASON TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE OFFICIAL FORECAST.

GIVEN THE CURRENT FORECAST...IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO ADJUST THE U.S.

WATCHES AND WARNINGS AT THIS TIME.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 26/0300Z 28.3N 77.3W 100 KT 115 MPH

12H 26/1200Z 30.0N 77.8W 105 KT 120 MPH

24H 27/0000Z 31.8N 77.6W 110 KT 125 MPH

36H 27/1200Z 33.7N 77.1W 105 KT 120 MPH

48H 28/0000Z 36.0N 76.3W 90 KT 105 MPH

72H 29/0000Z 42.0N 73.0W 70 KT 80 MPH...INLAND

96H 30/0000Z 51.0N 66.0W 40 KT 45 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

120H 31/0000Z 58.0N 50.0W 40 KT 45 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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When I see all the discussion about central pressure's off global model readings, I'm reminded of this discussion:

A few of the globals have shown some of the most extreme pressure fall situations today that I think i've seen in my time following meteorology. One could argue that the 12z Euro solution was teetering on the edges of what is actually possible this time of year at this part of the globe. A 929mb surface low east of Long Island in October would be one of the most prolific events we'd see in our lifetimes.

I think the Canadian just came in with another 930mb solution as well..those type of numbers are extremely suspect to say the least. That's not to say the storm wouldn't be strong/powerful/etc given the upper air set up (which is extremely amplified on all of these runs i'm speaking about)...but the pressure getting down to those numbers is extremely unlikely if not totally unlikely.

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Euro now wants to try and phase with the first piece of energy..it's got a completely different upper air pattern in the Central/Western US than the 12z run did. Also the ridge in the central/northwest Atlantic is a good bit weaker.

That bad or good? I need sleep cant believe I'm stayin up for a storm in october.

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That bad or good? I need sleep cant believe I'm stayin up for a storm in october.

Neither, really...the ridge being weaker in the Atlantic is bad as it doesn't force the storm west like the 12z run...but the energy is more energetic in the Central US which might just surge southeast and phase with the TC anyways.

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Neither, really...the ridge being weaker in the Atlantic is bad as it doesn't force the storm west like the 12z run...but the energy is more energetic in the Central US which might just surge southeast and phase with the TC anyways.

Gotchya, so what'd it end up doing?

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