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13 minutes ago, xAllVolsx said:

Don’t the Dam fail after that pic was taken?

Yeah, was implying if it already looked like that before the damn failure its probably going to be completely washed out for a long ways. 

1 hour ago, WxWatcher007 said:

 

This this is beneath where the dam just failed, they have have to rebuild a huge stretch of it

2 minutes ago, SchaumburgStormer said:

Recon has to be getting the shit kicked out of them on the path they are on through the N eyewall. 

That first plane earlier tried and decided thanks but no thanks and went home. 

Pretty incredible to see the similarities between this storm and Michael. The IR presentation and evolution approaching landfall is even remarkably similar 

6 minutes ago, WxSynopsisDavid said:

Radar attenuation. Those towers are very large and blocking view of the west and south side of the storm. Reason why the intensification is surprising to you because you didn’t account for such.

We literally do this every single storm storm. Because they always look this way. Regardless of if it’s attenuation or not, nobody should be surprised the backside eyewall looks ragged.

Should get an extra boost from frictional convergence here pretty soon

Eye is about to clear. Would imagine recon is going to find pressure significantly lower

Eyewall complete close off and much more circular on radar, wouldnt be surprised to see another substantial drop in pressure when the new plane arrives

The core looks pretty salty from the tampa radar

4 minutes ago, MattPetrulli said:

958.3 extra

Here we go. This is probably about the worst time timing wise for a more rapid intensification to start. 

4 minutes ago, NeonPeon said:

It's never really hanging on to a stable core structure though. It never has loci of intense convection, just the one, and it hasn't had a stable symmetrical eye either. It keeps looking like it's going to, but can't quite clear itself out.

I dont disagree, but the structure has been continuously improving, just slowly. Until the structure shows an obvious degradation I still think a period of more rapid intensification is on the table. 

ETA: Maybe with towers going up on both sides of the eye now we see more sustained eyewall convection

4 minutes ago, olafminesaw said:

I mean 105 to 125 in 8-12 hours is certainly not as big a hurdle as y'all make it sound. Not to say it's going to happen. But the bottom line is a major hurricanes is likely at landfall which is not going to have a much different impact than a low end cat 4

Exactly what I have been trying to say, it clears out an eye and we get a 15-20 millibar drop in pressure fairly quickly and its basically right track with where its forecast to end up. There is still more than enough time for that to happen

We are at a place now where if we clear out a solid eye the pressure will drop very quickly and suddenly be on track or overperforming models. I think its wayyyy beyond too early to say its going to underperform until something clearly disrupts the continued organizational process. 

8 minutes ago, Radtechwxman said:

That dry air definitely made it into the COC. Degraded it more than I anticipated. Curious what hurricane hunters will find intensity wise. Wondering when Helene will really take off. 

Pressure down a couple millibars so dont really know that it was degraded per se

21 minutes ago, soadforecasterx said:

looks like its really getting its act together now

Pretty close to getting the dry air mixed out of the center. Recon is almost there, should be an interesting couple hours. 

Definitely can see the eye trying to close off on visible

3 minutes ago, NeonPeon said:

Can someone clarify something for the uneducated.

The storm seems to have some dry air entrainment, but the general discussion has been that this was not likely to be an issue with this storm. Is what I'm seeing on satellite as dry air just subsidence from a storm that is lopsided, with an asymmetrical core? Are they one in the same?

My guess is we are probably just seeing some structural changes and it may try and clear out an eye before the pressure starts falling again. Even when storms are going through RI we see periods where the pressure drops pause while the storms "consolidates" before the next wave of intensification. 

Yeah recon shows how large the eye is with a huge area of lighter winds, pretty wild

Certainly one of the most impressive satellite presentations I can remember for a tropical storm!

towers blowing up over the llc now

Definitely some southerly shear still but should be a more favorable vector and starting to see some storms wrap around the northern side of the storm. 

13 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

@wxeyeNH I noticed that too. It's occurring after the early posts about alignment. We could see a new center develop closer to the convection..but IMO things aren't close to taking off quite yet.

Yeah what a mess

1 hour ago, GaWx said:

They initialized it at 17.6N, 82.0W, which is well to the WNW of that. We’ll see what recon finds this afternoon. This from the just released NHC discussion is probably relevant:

“While
some mid-level rotation is evident in visible satellite images,
surface observations and visible satellite images suggest the
low-level circulation remains broad and farther to the southwest.”

It does look like that swirl they initailized on is getting pulled back towards the convection

Some pretty obvious westerly lower level flow on visible satellite. Looks like maybe centered under the convection at 80w 17N?

16 minutes ago, g0ldl10n said:

I am trying to learn here - weather my second love, with electronic engineering my first - but is this tornado outbreak being fueled by the high pressure system pushing in the opposite direction of the rotational direction Beryl is spinning? Or, are these winds at 250mb too high up to be causing this? 

 

 

Here, on this satellite feed, we can clearly see the high pressure system pushing directly into Beryl, which I would think is what is helping fuel this outbreak, but am not 100% sure here.

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=continental-conus-sandwich-96-1-25-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined

Asking because I know in the past when I have monitored hurricanes coming inland, they usually put down smallish and short lived tornadoes, however, a few of these have been confirmed as large with "Considerable" threat levels from NOAA, with the following tags. Also, these seem to be quite long lived - and hook echos are just everywhere - quite scary for the people in the path of this. 

 

 

In your graphic you can see the strong upper level winds out of the southwest and lower level winds in the hurricane are out of the southeast, creating a lot of turning with height/vertical wind shear. Just need an updraft to translate that shear to the surface.