DDweatherman

That piece is literally one of the best features we've seen. Usually those screw us, but it helps coming in on the backside to tilt this a bit and on the 18z, its more potent than last run.

not even baccarat can you do that...

hr84 is more positively tilted, but its more dug in and the northern piece diving in is stronger. Not a huge difference from 12z.

The backside piece from the NW is what brought the 12z run back for us. The tail is a bit more elongated, but the whole evolution was a bit west and slightly slower.

The positive tilt on some models has been an issue (why the 18z GEFS was SE), because of the lower heights out front of the system.

Hour 60, heights lower but its really just a bit slower. The ss is a bit west but the N/s also dives in a bit west. Next few frames are important. Thought hr 72 above on TT doesn't look great just going off that image.

I would but doing dinner with the kids right now.

Most important 18z euro run of its existence thus far

@psuhoffmancan you PM me it just in case I don’t have the most current

Did you already send it out for tonight?

I’ve been on all but one, good times.

Do we just want to open a thread so you can include the zoom creds there? (then re use as necessary for others)

A close off and vertically stacked system would help slow it down some (kinda like what the 12z euro did)

Good thinking here, I'd love to jump on.

One of the best posts of the day

I have my reservation there too, I get the energy redevelopment. @WinterWxLuvr best post of the day

Trust me, I want this one to happen for us, so let the beer commence. I get it though, these models can throw us all for a loop. 18z GFS is a prime example. If you read a lot of the folks posts coming up to the prime frames, you'd think jaws was coming. Surface didn't turn out and by hr 84 the trough was a bit broad, even though it was night and day from the past few. You're right in that being the main reason to just hang tight. Now, if it looks like the 18z NAM was looking from real early on, we can play the jaws music.

You got it. I'm liking that the most and its not a tangible thing, just a vibe thing. Arguably the most important 18z euro run in its history (don't think it was running yet in 2016).

Shew, thats a lot of work...

Agreed. One thing I'd really like to see is some higher heights out in front NE of us. That can help once our low develops & if we do get a clean phase. We want our low to have as much of a due N component as possible. Backside energy dropping in can help with those heights.

december 2009 lol

Some means early on 12/09 looked like that

It does not look good NE of us, the trough is pretty broad, but the members are actually a bit west of their 12z location again.. GEFS hasn't done well of late but its interesting

He is, and that piece is one of the keys thats been improving each run...

@Jipossibly? But we let him experience the storm first? Trough is just kinda broad later in the GFS run, 12z was more v shaped...