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Updated relative weeklies:
Midweek date……..1+2………3……..3.4……..429APR2026 0.6 0.4 0.4 0.5
06MAY2026 1.0 0.5 0.4 0.5
13MAY2026 1.3 0.6 0.4 0.6
20MAY2026 1.6 0.7 0.5 0.6
27MAY2026 1.7 0.8 0.5 0.7
03JUN2026 2.0 0.9 0.7 0.7
10JUN2026 2.1 1.0 0.9 0.8
17JUN2026 2.4 1.3 1.1 0.8
24JUN2026 2.5 1.5 1.2 0.6-
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The CFS is still forecasting Nino 4 to reach a +2.5C monthly peak, which is not at all indicative of a relatively severely E based Nino like 1997, when it peaked at a mere +0.7C. It would even obliterate the monthly record peak of +1.5 of 2023-4 as well as the +1.4 of 2015-6, +1.1 of 2009-10, +0.9 of 1957-8, +0.9 of 1991-2, +0.8 of 1965-6, and +0.7 of 1972-3:
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The Arctic mean temp. N of 80N, helped by a +AO, still didn’t reach freezing as it actually cooled very slightly yesterday! The prior latest on record (back to 1958) to first exceed 0C was June 20th (2013). Will it finally exceed 0C before the end of the month? Time’s running out and the model consensus has BN temps persisting. It had come within 0.35C on June 27th and then yesterday fell a little to 0.47C away:

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The UKMET keeps developing this into a weak TD and then dissipating it well offshore the SE US as it moves SW, WSW, W, and then WNW. I doubt this ever becomes a TD when considering other models:
MET OFFICE TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE FOR NORTH-EAST PACIFIC AND ATLANTIC
GLOBAL MODEL DATA TIME 0000UTC 29.06.2026
NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 30 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 30 : 32.5N 72.5W
LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
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1200UTC 30.06.2026 36 31.5N 71.9W 1012 26
0000UTC 01.07.2026 48 31.1N 72.1W 1011 26
1200UTC 01.07.2026 60 30.8N 73.0W 1012 23
0000UTC 02.07.2026 72 30.8N 74.3W 1013 21
1200UTC 02.07.2026 84 31.1N 75.8W 1015 18
0000UTC 03.07.2026 96 31.8N 77.2W 1016 18
1200UTC 03.07.2026 108 CEASED TRACKING -
12Z UKMET is fairly similar to the 0Z: TD that stays weak and then dissipates well offshore:
MET OFFICE TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE FOR NORTH-EAST PACIFIC AND ATLANTIC
GLOBAL MODEL DATA TIME 1200UTC 28.06.2026
NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 48 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 48 : 32.1N 72.3W
LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
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1200UTC 30.06.2026 48 32.1N 72.3W 1013 25
0000UTC 01.07.2026 60 31.4N 72.5W 1012 24
1200UTC 01.07.2026 72 31.0N 72.8W 1013 22
0000UTC 02.07.2026 84 31.2N 74.4W 1014 20
1200UTC 02.07.2026 96 31.6N 75.7W 1015 17
0000UTC 03.07.2026 108 CEASED TRACKING-
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The 12Z UKMET had nothing of note, even less than yesterday’s 0Z’s very weak low hitting near Daytona Beach. But the new 0Z is the 1st of its runs with a TD transitioning from an extratropical low that forms on a front. It then moves WSW but remains weak and then gradually weakens followed by dissipation on Thu well off the SE coast:
MET OFFICE TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE FOR NORTH-EAST PACIFIC AND ATLANTIC
GLOBAL MODEL DATA TIME 0000UTC 28.06.2026
NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 54 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 54 : 32.1N 71.8W
LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
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1200UTC 30.06.2026 60 32.1N 70.7W 1011 26
0000UTC 01.07.2026 72 31.2N 71.3W 1012 25
1200UTC 01.07.2026 84 30.4N 71.5W 1013 25
0000UTC 02.07.2026 96 30.5N 72.7W 1015 22
1200UTC 02.07.2026 108 30.6N 74.3W 1016 16
0000UTC 03.07.2026 120 CEASED TRACKING -
33 minutes ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said:
The values show -PNA for 09-10, unless this whole thing is wrong: https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/norm.nao.monthly.b5001.current.ascii.table
Those are the NAO values, not PNAs.
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Per DMI, the daily mean temp in the Arctic N of 80N has still not reached 0C! As of today (6/27), it’s still barely <0C at -0.35C:

Going all of the way back to 1958, the previous latest to first exceed 0C was a full week earlier, June 20th, and that was in 2013:

So, even if it finally exceeds 0C tomorrow, that would still be a whopping 8 days later than the previous latest on record of June 20th! I checked every year.
https://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
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Per DMI, the daily mean temp in the Arctic N of 80N has still not reached 0C! As of today (6/27), it’s still barely <0C at -0.35C:

Going all of the way back to 1958, the previous latest to first exceed 0C was a full week earlier, June 20th, and that was in 2013:

So, even if it finally exceeds 0C tomorrow, that would still be a whopping 8 days later than the previous latest on record of June 20th! I checked every year.
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6 hours ago, GaWx said:
Heavy popup over me just started!
The above popup, which didn’t last too long, still gave me ~0.3-0.4”. And now a new popup line of thunderstorms along the seabreeze is moving in with heavy rainfall potential per radar. This 2nd one ended up fizzling quickly as it came in after just a brief period of mainly just moderate rain. I estimate my total for today at 1/2”, which gets me to ~5.15” MTD. This further delays the earliest I’ll need to restart watering. -
I’m wondering if W Yellowstone Gateway, which is at 6,666 ft, could get some snow:
...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING
TO NOON MDT MONDAY...
* WHAT...PERIODS OF WET SNOW EXPECTED. TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS UP TO
4 INCHES ABOVE 6500 FEET
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF BIG SKY, WEST YELLOWSTONE, TARGHEE PASS,
AND RAYNOLDS PASS
942 AM MDT SAT JUN 27 2026
TONIGHT
COLDER. RAIN SHOWERS AND CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS IN
THE EVENING, THEN RAIN SHOWERS AND SNOW SHOWERS AFTER MIDNIGHT.
SNOW ACCUMULATION UP TO 4 INCHES. LOWS 31 TO 37.
IF W Yell. Gate can somehow get any measurable SN late tonight, it would be a new record latest in season meas. on record by 20 days! They’ve had no meas. June 9th-Sep 14th although records go back only to 2007. But even just a T would be notable as they’ve had only 2 Ts June 28th-Sep 4th since 2007:
Records:https://www.weather.gov/wrh/Climate?wfo=tfx
https://grizzlyrv.com/what-is-the-elevation-of-west-yellowstone/
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Heavy popup over me just started!
Edit: I forgot to post about a popup line that developed along the seabreeze midafternoon yesterday that gave me ~0.25” (on June 26th), which had brought my MTD as of 6/26 to 4.65”.
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1 hour ago, snowman19 said:
No, it’s not basin-wide like 2015. Since the biggest player this winter, by far and away is going to be a record-breaking super El Niño, 2009-10 doesn’t match, not one iota. This Nino is going to be a completely overwhelming signal that will trump anything else in the atmosphere or the rest of the oceans. It’s not an analog, not even close. We disagree. This is going to be a very easy winter to predict, there’s nothing hard or challenging about it, not at all. Easiest one in years. And I don’t agree at all with your assessment that this El Nino developing like 2015-16. This one is very, very clearly east-based and it’s going to stay that way. We can split atoms all we want and say it’s “hybrid”, “basin-wide”, “migrating Modoki”, “in betweener” or whatever other adjectives we can come up with and it’s not going to change that fact. It’s been abundantly clear for a month now that this is easily going to be the strongest super El Niño since 1950, at the very least, more likely the strongest one of all time, both in RONI and ONI
These are progging 4 to get way up to +2.4 to +2.5, which is way higher than the record high of only +1.5 (‘23-4), +1.4 (‘15-6), +1.2 (‘09-10), +1.1 (‘68-9), +1.0 (‘18-9). Even the relatives for ‘26 on CFS/Euro are way up at ~+2.0!
‘97-8 and ‘82-3 were only +0.7!
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/data/indices/ersst5.nino.mth.91-20.ascii
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New lemon off SE coast:
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1 hour ago, WxWatcher007 said:
New lemon off the SE coast. Minor to modest development signal on the guidance but perhaps there’s just enough of a window for weak development.
0Z UKMET has a 1015 mb low hitting Daytona Thu AM moving WNW underneath a very strong H5 high centered over W VA although this is the model run exception rather than the rule. This is too weak to make it to actual TD status although it’s its first run with anything of note.
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33 minutes ago, Kmlwx said:
Last few days or a week or so - have been seeing pretty frequent Cloudflare "Bad Gateway" 502 errors from the forum. Generally a refresh of the page loads it (albeit slowly). Anything going on?
It’s been awful. It got better this morning, but got bad again this afternoon. The last few days have been worst I’ve seen since joining in 2010! @Wow
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1 hour ago, SUNYGRAD said:
still a problem.
51 minutes ago, Maggie Valley Steve said:Worse for me today Larry!
8 minutes ago, olafminesaw said:Yeah it seemed to be working somewhat better before mid-morning but now it's as bad as ever
Yep, the lag came back.

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The latest Euro and Icon are suggesting that H5 heights will reach a max of ~598 dm at some point over GSO within the July 1-3 period. They have as much as 597 dm as of 8AM. A 597 would more than likely be approaching the all time record high for there at 12Z, which often runs a couple of dm lower than an afternoon max. For comparison, it reached ~597-598 dm at GSO at 12Z on 7/7/1986 per old maps I saw yesterday. I have no way of knowing if that’s the highest on record at 12Z though without spending at least many hours going through numerous maps.
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Finally there is no lag! Hopefully it’s done! Anyone else seeing a big improvement? Maybe wow fixed it?
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On 6/19/2026 at 2:12 PM, BooneWX said:
So much is loaded into the net result of everyday winter weather but it’s going to be intriguing to see play out. We’ve had a lot of cold and dry the past few years with a southern jet that just can’t get the job done and watching everything get suppressed. I think we swing the pendulum the other way this year but hopefully not too much. My fear is that it’s indeed BN for much of the season with AN precip but I think it’s driven by a lot of 45° rainstorms - not snow. But we only need to connect on one for it to be a good winter in this forum.
A lot of 45 degree rains would themselves be great news to relieve the drought. A lot of rains at any temp! Relieving the drought would make it a good winter whether or not any there are any widespread SE winter storms. If one happens to be a winter storm, which wouldn’t be hard to occur, that would be icing on the cake.
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57 minutes ago, snowman19 said:
In other news, the 90 day SOI is almost -14 and the 30 day SOI is over -18. Massive turnaround since the end of March. Extremely impressive….When you combine everything with the ++PMM, the STJ is going to be a roided up beast this fall/winter
Yep. This is fantastic news for prospects to relieve the terrible SE drought! Couldn’t have better prospects. Nearly the exact opposite of last fall/winter’s drought inducing La Niña.
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4 hours ago, eyewall said:
Some of this is almost certainly the GFS doing GFS kinds of things (i.e., too hot especially after day 5). The GFS does this frequently in summer. It could easily be 5-10 F too hot. I’d bet heavily against it being this hot. Quite hot is likely but not this hot.
Edit: the lagging issue here isn’t getting any better. It’s terrible! I’ve been here since it started in 2010 and can’t recall any tech issue worse than this.
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1 hour ago, so_whats_happening said:
Sorry I probably should have worded it a bit better. They are Max temps for the entire summer at those locations.
Oops. So, that’s why most others’ maxes are significantly warmer than mine. I inadvertently in my mind entered a different max temps contest than most.

One other entrant @RodneyShas similarly lower maxes to mine. I wonder if he also thought it was just for June. And I saw people before me putting “June” on their entry, which further made me think the maxes also were for just June.If there’s any way you can remove my maxes picks, please do so. Otherwise, it’s ok. Maybe I’ll get lucky.

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Does 30C remain a “magic number” with a warming globe? Or does the “magic #” keep warming as the globe warms? What is the science behind a 30C “magic #”?


2026-2027 Super El Nino
in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Posted
The latest CFS has its warmest relative 3.4 monthly peak yet, way up at a record high obliterating +3.3 in Nov! But note that it also still cools it at a record rapid pace all the way down to +2.0 in Jan, +1.5 in Feb, and +1.0 in Mar:
@PhiEaglesfan712