RogueWaves

If you don't live in the Dakotas, MSP, KBUF or some other LES region, there hasn't been a "winter"

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0.5"/hr is so "meh" PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI 414 PM EST SUN DEC 25 2022 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 0700 AM HEAVY SNOW 1 ESE MANCELONA 44.90N 85.05W 12/25/2022 M36.7 INCH ANTRIM MI COCORAHS COCORAHS STATION MI-AT-6 MANCELONA 0.5 ESE. STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL OVER 72 HOURS.

I can't be at home every hour of the day so my measuring isn't perfect, but what I recorded last winter was only 35.6" or 79% of the 45" annual average I find for DTW. A far cry from what you got down that way. You did better in almost every storm/event last winter. Sometimes sig better. Canton seemed to draw the short straw in all but the clipper regime. S Streamers and LES failed pretty badly for me here. And every time I thought maybe it was "just me" and due to being at work when things switched to mix or rain. Then I'd see another report from here that confirmed my low number(s). Hoping this is just a blip, and things will reverse at some juncture. But Idk, this may just be low-ball heaven like Macomb Cnty is on that annual snowfall map.

I wrote an inch, but I think it was more on the order of 1.5" and another 1/2" was in my footprints when I got back in town.

DTX. Kickin it w/TX, SWMO, & the Carolinas . I made a joke post before that it was good they didn't upgrade to a BW for blowing dust. But by what someone posted about whiteouts in the Thumb region and how plows were being pulled and no emergency responders after dark, I think they could've/should've upgraded some of those counties tbh.

Odd that I am posting here, but I woke to 1" of fresh LES on Christmas morning. Headed to my sister's place in Birch Run early and it was still snowing. Nobody on the roads. Hit some heavier stuff near Brighton and x-way was covered. Everything white. Was almost Courier and Ives gorgeous. Thought I was in NMI for a moment. Not a Big Dog, but certainly a unique dog. Drifts in the farmlands were 2-6 foot. Great day despite the icy-dicey roads.

Outside of LES zones, this wasn't a Big Dog. Just too damned dry. Been that way around here all year.

Obvious trend is not your friend on this one. Baroclinic zone seems nice and tight up in MT where it really looks good, then it just washes out heading SE.

Hoosier also banned from starting storm threads. Drought threads ok.

Had the 24 hr temps from yesterday at 10 am to 10 am this morning timed it right, would've set the all-time coldest Christmas here in Detroit. 1983 remains champ for the 25th. About 1 day too early to have a shot here.

South end of Wayne did much better than my area last winter. Using DTW for my annual (just 8 mi S) my total last winter was only 79%. Not close to avg. Even an avg season, when/if spread over too many months (Nov-Apr) is going to have a difficult time impressing anyone. An avg snow total in a condensed 2 or 2.5 mos will feel much more like serious winter. As you noted tho, trend is a stretched-out season with a bunch of dud spells mixed in between. Can't even remember that last condensed avg winter. Seems like we either get a good winter start to finish or complete garbage.

A bit NE of Mancelona: PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI 1218 PM EST SAT DEC 24 2022 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 1216 PM HEAVY SNOW 6 NW GAYLORD 45.09N 84.76W 12/24/2022 M27.0 INCH OTSEGO MI PUBLIC STORM TOTAL FROM SNOW ONSET THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH 12:15PM SATURDAY.

@Harry How's this been for your place?

Detroit's poor showing is my fault. Been pretty lame since I moved here. It is not always that way, but one thing this area really does struggle with even when it gets a good hit is snow cover retention. And I'm a huge fan of keeping a blanket of white OTG. Going to be a challenge, especially with the climo shifting warmer

Monthly SN anomalies map showed Nov and Dec BN (check), with Jan AN, and Feb more normal-ish this year. We are very overdue for Jan to show-up. It's been a bit colder but almost as snowless as Dec.

Formula = For every foot of LES Buffalo region receives, we get 1 wk of AN craptasticly winterless conditions. Oh, and the AN Precip map - yeah, OFC, when it warms up!

Had to go out today on a last-minute errand. Found a 14" drift between me and my car. Yeah, here in Detroit burbs OMG. Going to up my grade for this storm for that reason alone, beside snow falling on Christmas Eve and occasional ground blizzard conditions as I drove to West Bloomfield and back. Drifts in the burbs is p'cool too and this could've been a much bigger deal for this place had there been even 5" of snowfall to work with.

Not to miss the point, but those pressures in Hg values look wrong.

4 pm APX W/NW low level winds continue to strengthen across our entire CWA this afternoon as our wind-driven heavy lake-enhanced snow/blizzard event unfolds. Updated snow reports suggest 12 to 18 inches have fallen across our typical snowbelt areas...with locally higher amounts up to 24 inches per recent spotter reports. Looks like my former place in NWMI did ok with last night's synoptic (always perfect for mby when an SLP was over Detroit-ha). Morning reports were showing a solid 5-8 inches. Presuming LES continues there it has to be pretty nasty.

Had an accidental snow shower here a few minutes ago. oops

Just think. If this had been a real storm, we'd be on like Part 4 of the thread, lol

Same. Doubt there's more than an inch blowing around out there.

Just heard a loud wind roar pass through. Hi-lite of the storm

S Lakes/OHV was ground-zero during the 60's and 70's and up til 82/83's Super Nino. Then things shifted north and NMI did well in 80's and 90's. I moved in 97/98's mega-Nino and things again shifted S. I remember my friend up in Traverse complaining that SWMI scored the huge totals with Jan '99 while up there, it was just a decent hit.