LongBeachSurfFreak

That makes sense, since CT has some decent elevation. You know from you’re poconos house how important elevation is in early and late season events. Also, based on the wind direction, it would be extremely difficult for cold enough air near the coast as water temps in early October are still very warm. Even in the 2011 event the warmer water temps had huge impacts on accumulations. More snow fell at JFK then LGA. And the north shore of the island stayed mainly rain with a fetch off the sound. We had a slushy coating in Long Beach, meanwhile within a mile or two of the sound in say Huntington had zero.

I just cut and pasted from 1804 New England hurricane. There was 42” of snow in southern Vermont likely at 2,000’ or more. But temps weren’t even close for us. Way too early in the season even back then. Even calling it a hurricane is highly suspect given the wind directions recorded. A hurricane may have been the nucleus for the storm, but at the very least it was already extra tropical at this latitude.

Not even close to snow. The storm, and I say storm, was likely similar to Isias with majority of the energy due to baroclinic fourcing from a powerful trough interaction. While gusts in New York City, where the storm arrived that afternoon, initially blew towards the southeast, they soon shifted towards the north-northwest and coincided with a rapid drop in atmospheric pressure, which bottomed out at 977 mbar(28.87 inHg) by the early afternoon. Though the barometer at the weather station remained at that point for much of the afternoon, the air temperature plummeted rapidly from 55 °F (13 °C) to 42 °F (6 °C) during the same period.[10] A strong westerly circulation encouraged the swift eastward movement of the trough's northern segment, steering the track of the storm northeastward over New England.[11I’m

The south shore is often behind areas 10+ miles inland. There is even a noticeable difference from here in North Lynbrook to my dads in South Wantagh.

It’s all relative, in that the water hasn’t cooled, it just hasn’t warmed at the normal seasonal rate. Upwelling from trade winds in the MDR do not change OHC as much however as it’s mixing surface water to relatively shallow depths when compared to inside a hurricane. 10 foot seas in a 25 knot trade wind vs 50 foot seas in 100 knot hurricane winds. If the trades die down during the period of maximum solar insulation in June and July we could easily see a quick reversal.

Green Giant Arb is a pretty hardy plant. Hard to pin down exactly what killed it. The Butterfly bushes are fine, just remove the dead wood and you should get most of it back this season. Essentially a weed.

Nice, they just barely make it at our latitude. One late 1800s winter and they would be adios. At Planting Fields arboretum their Camillia collection was in a greenhouse for that reason. Crape Myrtle is another popular example of a southern species now thriving here. The deeper the color the more prone to cold. I have a red that died back to the ground after Feb 15. Grew back and is now tree size again. Seems to be doing fine, just pruned it yesterday.

Were they broad leaf evergreens? They are very prone to burning during cold winds. This winter had a ton of that. If they weren’t it was probably stress from the drought last fall.

I guess it was more of a delayed rather then denied situation. As far as practical feel for the day, it was more like a day without it, as the afternoon was relatively mild and calm which isn’t what I think of when I think of Ambrose jet type days. Part of what makes weather so fascinating to me, I agreed with you yesterday morning that it had the hallmarks, then I’m sitting in my dads backyard in south wantagh yesterday afternoon, thinking where the F is the wind!!!! It’s a pretty simple phenomenon, heat up the land and drop the pressure compared to the relatively higher pressure over the cold water. Well yesterday had that big time, lots of solar radiation, and below normal mid spring water temps.

It definitely wasn’t an Ambrose jet event. In fact for most of the afternoon the wind was light east. Data from 44065 ny harbor buoy

It’s kind of weirdly calm right now. I’m sitting in the backyard and it’s pretty toasty. Having grown up here, on warm spring days we are usually ripping 30 knots watching low clouds race by overhead by 4pm.

I’m in south wantagh right now a few blocks from the bay and no sign of the Ambrose jet. Sometimes it just doesn’t happen.

There’s nothing better then walking out of your apartment and being on the beach. If I were wealthy I would have a lb condo, and a mountain house at 2,500’ in the southern greens.

Thank you, good to see some maturity for once. We have a climate change thread. I, and others are happy to debate you over there.

I’ll just call the Ambrose jet the young vegetable destroyer from now on. The last one shredded my string beans.

We have actually been reducing that trend in the US. Overdose deaths in young people is one major factor, but the real catalyst has been life style. Many Americans are sedentary and have awful diets. Now global warming is rapidly accelerating and life expectancy is stagnant or decreasing.

Maybe? I’m not sure, that’s before my time. In the 90s movie this cute scientist discovers cold fusion and Val cons her and steals the formula she keeps in her brah. The interesting thing is, the Russian oligarchs try to steal it first because fusion is really bad when you make billions off natural gas. That has to be a major deferent to making fusion a reality. Exon Mobil isn’t about to start paying for fusion research.

I could see it happening by 2050, earlier if AI figures it out quicker. The greatest thing about fusion is one of its biggest inhibitors. The movie the Saint with my buddy Val did a good job explaining this all the way back in the 90s. Practically free, unlimited energy is inherently its own worst enemy in a capitalist society.

That’s where fusion solves all problems. It’s the most renewable resource possible. If the USA were to devote the time, money and resources to fusion that we did to the Manhattan project or the Apollo missions we could have it in 20 years. It literally changes everything, unlimited clean power allows for unlimited desalination, geo carbon storage and the list goes on and on. One hope is that with advances in AI and quantum computing fusion technology advances faster.

I couldn’t agree more. Nuclear fission technology has advanced to a point that it is absolutely the way to go. Unfortunately countries like Germany would rather burn biomass like trees and have shut down their last remaining reactors. Chernobyl just did so much PR damage. The reality is that a repeat is a near zero chance with current tech. The real hope to stopping climate change in my eyes lies with fusion. The problem is it’s always 20 years out from a viability. Some progress has been made, like more energy output then input in the last few years but it’s just not viable yet. We can only hope we get there before it’s too late.

Yeah with my phone. I did increase the contrast and zoomed in. It was an especially vivid sunset.

Gorgeous sunset just now, very vivid.

Exactly what I’m thinking. A big part of why the climate models aren’t predicting huge increases in numbers are do to factors like increase shear and lower lapse rates. But on the high end, the potential increases as OHC increases. More cat 5s but not necessarily many more named storms.

Hands down the best severe thunderstorm I have ever experienced. I was life guarding at Eisenhower park. It got so dark inside the aquatic center that everyone got out of the pool, indoors! I was able to run outside and watched garbage cans get launched into the building. It was also covered in that green leaf paste you only see with high end winds.

Yeah that’s part of it too. Plus plants aren’t fans of chlorine and fluorine.