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I expressed my concern to OKX last weekend (the .02 T snow around daybreak. They kindly provided me their view using science soundings and what might have occurred. They prevailed on that T. I disagree but NWS prevails. It is obvious to me that improvement is needed in that CP snow reporting process. ALSO, that OKX send out a message that hits everyone at the same time with whatever occurred, instead of answering ph calls from media. NO ONE in the media deserves an advantage over another in the competitive media market. I've said my peace on this... I dealt with the same thing in NWS offices.

Classic winter snow event just ended with bitter cold to follow, similar to what I remember in the late 50s, 60s, 70s. Nice threading. I haven't been able to keep up with thread initiation, so am done threading and in general commenting. If you want a one way daily 6am ish message, dm me at [email protected] and let me know your location. Accuracy probably not as good as others in the D1-2 range but I know I grasp impacts ahead. I saw the Tomer Burg (polar weather) D1 post, after the event it was MUCH better than anything these I saw but I was also away in PA. I haven't done a very good job this year in nw NJ... partly due to aging slowing down and not able to review everything within constraints of home life. Am done considering what is posted on American Weather and also thread initiations, but I will add a precipitation total every once in a while. I'm at that age 75 where I need to focus much more here at home. Everyone continues on their own track. Best of health is what I think you will value. 12/14/25

00z/14 EPS melts most of the snow Wed-Fri AM, followed by potential wind advisory 45MPH gust event Friday afternoon-eve in CAA.

Wantage NJ 5.8" at 7A. Other Wanatge reports similar and similarly 5-6" from interior se PA through the ABE area to our area. Iso heavier totals. My last report. Blowing and drifting tonight with single digits or colder wind chill.

Wantage NJ 225AM 3.5". 28.9F light snow. It's a light weight powdery removal but slippery for sure.

Wantage NJ (this southern part at 740' MSL). 1.8" final-wet clingy snow. Less on driveway and virtually none on paved roads now... temp rising to 32.4F.

Wantage NJ (this southern part): 410 PM 1.2". The 3/4" or less driveway and 0.3" on salted road in front of our rural home, occasionally wet road there. 32.0F

Wantage 0.3" at 240P since SB around 150PM. 32.4aF down from a high of 35.2. We had sprinkles at 1025 AM. Driveway snow covered but treated roads just wet.

Nor did the observer at CP where 0.02 liquid occurring virtually as all snow and only T. Guessing the snow total was rounded down to a T (below 0.5"). That might be a future question mark for detail oriented minor climo checkers.

Who knows what goes on... I'll be interested in their 445P climates for LGA, EWR and CP and how a TV station got info before entire community regarding official amounts. That was always something that bothered me in offices, the TV station calls for info before the entire community. Competition.

Thank you Don. Clarification will eventually be needed.

Is there a message out on CP NON 0.1" snowfall this morning. I heard on CH4 it's a T? I can benefit from downsizing justification. Thanks.

CoCoRaHs snowfall below as of 8A/6. Please click for clarity. Measurable snow sleet occurred at CP, KEWR, KLGA, a couple days earlier than POR normal first date in the second week of Dec. My last on this thread. We can move onto something bigger and more extensive inclusive of LI by the first day of winter (I would hope).

via XMACIS below. Newark POR 1931. normal first day of measurable snow 12/8 LaGuardia POR 1940. normal first day of measurable snow 12/11

KLGA and KEWR also measured this morning...both first of the season.

Wantage NJ had 0.1" overnight. NYC CP XMACIS first last date of measurable. Median for the period off record dating back to 1869 is Dec 8. see below. CP did it a couple days early! Good call Don via stats a. few days ago.

METAR KNYC 061151Z AUTO 00000KT 3SM -SN FEW017 OVC026 M01/M03 A2994 RMK AO2 UPB09E34SNB34 SLP132 P0001 60001 70001 T10061033 10000 21011 56002 First measurable snowfall for the season at CP? A day or so before the normal first day?

Bands of what I call junk light mixed freezing precipitation coming through the area next 2-4 hours. Thanks for your reports. NYC had a T of snow and Newark in progress snow with snow sleet. We'll take what we can get. Yes, high res models had an idea and NWS offices responded with the SPS's.

OKX issued an SPS for tomorrow morning covering parts of the area and multiple models but not all, have spotty very light freezing-frozen precipitation in our area over night. mPing may be helpful in addition to monitoring radar developments, especially 4A-9A Sat. Questions are: will the expected low top precipitation be heavy enough to measure 0.01 NYC metro and will temps remain at or below 32F in CP overnight. Couldn't wait much longer to decide. Graphics below: WSSI-P for winter drivIng habits overnight... ie not even MINOR impact according to the criteria, and the probabilstic snow portal for NYC CP. So odds are against but am not waiting this out. Probably no measurable snow NYC but someone in the I95 corridor of NJ-NYC-CT is going to get a little wintry weather overnight... more than the flurries of earlier today. 658P/5

am offline til 330. will consider NOW thread for NYC first measurable at 5, if other models join the HRRR and EC. Uncertain ptype an T.

Well, here's your 12z HRRR for tomorrow morning (don't count this mornings snow s of PHL). Will revisit at 5PM for possible first measurable NYC early Sat from the very subtle low level trough.

This has had a message to to moderators a couple years ago. I had no feedback and so I live with this map as is, until moderators advise otherwise. Thanks for your own feedback. At least there is opportunity for all the participants to comment and review.

My Wantage NJ location low was 7 above with still an inch of snow-ice cover.

Heads up early Saturday: NO thread at this time but there could be a frozen-freezing trace to 1/4" snow-sleet-freezing rain event along I95 tomorrow morning between roughly 2A-8A (rain Long Island). Not threading but multiple models trying for this including the late on board EC. It's minor but worthy of monitoring and I could see this eventually needing a short fuse SPS, or even an advisory. These are the unexpected travel issues, especially after an afternoon of temps barely above freezing.

Presume I can use this map describing the extent of the NYC subforum> Please confirm. Thank you.