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This an extreme position. It's only advocated by the far right. The whole idea of herd immunity as a solution and exposing people to the virus is insane, and not inline with normal health policy whatsoever. I can't believe being supportive of CDC guidelines and the trends like NYS is doing is somehow an indefensible position. Im getting questioned more than you.

Ive already said what we need to do...the thing that's already being done in this country by state governments and the cdc guidelines. Gradually open, test, trace, isolate, monitor...

Can someone please show me a single ****ing person that has advocated for indefinite lockdowns?

*Smashes head on keyboard*

No, they aren't. There's demonstrable undercounting going on worldwide due to the lack of testing early on in the pandemic and we're at 60K confirmed already with plenty to go, and that's just the first wave with lots of restrictions in place to prevent the numbers I stated above.

It's not relevant to this virus at all. You know damn well how deadly it is. I know you're not stupid, man.

This is all bullshit. We aren't going to purposely give people the virus and we aren't going to lockdown indefinitely. Gradually open and test, trace, isolated, and monitor. It's the method that our govt and governments all over the world are following. Also, in this time, maybe we get more positive treatments that give better outcomes.

You kill like 1-2.5 million Americans with a "herd immunity solution." Insane that anyone would sign off for that willingly.

Lol.

It's actually 12 to 14 times higher... We can't compare asymptomatic infections of COVID to symptomatic infections of influenza. The IFR of the flu is probably closer to 0.06-0.07%.

Im guessing they haven't bothered creating a vaccine for common coronaviruses because they don't kill people... You're sounding really ignorant here, man. There's a single study that isn't peer reviewed that suggests strands with varying virulence. Herd immunity isn't a solution; it's a result.

It would be nice to know what test NYS used. The NY state study is much bigger than anything else we've seen so it should be more accurate even if there is some false positives. You're going to see more problems with the smaller percentages and the smaller test populations. The regional percentages in WNY, CNY, and northern NY would be much more suspect than NYC and NY as a whole because the smaller percentages are going to more affected by false positives.

NYC probable deaths are added later in the day. Most places are not including those in the US.

Well the probables are a bit more discontinuous since they include cases from weeks ago...the daily confirmed numbers are more indicative of trends. NYC is only place in the state doing that right now. I'm sure there uncounted deaths all over the country.

His numbers are confirmed NYS deaths. Worldometers adds the NYC probable numbers later in the day. It's not some conspiracy lol.

Lol. 3.6 percent of upstate ny and 21 percent of NYC. The state and the city is literally the hardest hit area in the entire country. How do you get 20 percent nationwide?

You really dont seem to understand the numbers...

Not exactly a promising finding. Perhaps neutral or disappointing depending on what you thought the fatality rate might be. This would put fatality rate at 0.8 or 0.9 if you include the NYC confirmed and probably deaths.

Cuomo released preliminary antibody data from NY 13.9 percent of NY sample had antibodies 21.2 percent NYC 3.6 percent upstate ny (excluding NYC Rockland, Westchester, Nassau, and Suffolk)

Maybe. That's the first time someone has suggested this...that there is substantial enough mutations to change virulence. I think we have to be careful with the studies out there...theres a lot of info and and much of it hasn't been peer reviewed.

I appreciate the want or need to be optimistic. I think what the numbers tell us is that it hasn't been widespread in many areas yet. I've posted in the new england forum that NYC had 15 times the deaths (real-time) compared to an average flu season in a month...with a wave peak at about 2/3rds the 1918 flu. (60 deaths per week per 100000 vs. 90 deaths per week per 100000) These type of data show me that the virus just isn't that widespread in other areas. The serology findings in southern California are interesting but idk it doesn't seem to jive with what weve actually seen on the ground. I think people might be lulled into a false sense of security because the social distancing measures have worked and the virus has had very disparate effects and infection rates depending on where you live.

Looks like Erie County is at plateau?

Spain is through the apex as of this morning. They have more recoveries than new cases.

The Icon is so good at tropical forecasting that the NHC doesn't even run statistics on it.

This is the third leading story on fox. Much more responsible. Canadian ex-PM 'rooting' for Hurricane Dorian to slam Mar-a-Lago