powderfreak

Ahh looked like it made sense going from 87/61 to 90/54 along with a westerly wind increase. At least passed the sniff test. That’s usually a classic spot too for mixing with drying as wind increases. Good to know.

Looks like CON just mixed out too with 90/54. POU has also been well down in the 50s. You can see why the models were mixing out some of the interior official stations like Ginxy said from 2-5pm.

And it goes with temperatures too... I think of growing up, if ALB hit 90F we said it was 90 degrees today. Our backyard under dense canopy probably maxed out at 85-86F. But we go by the station that's on the Local on the 8's or that you see on the 6pm news when they say "Albany hit 90F today." So when that 6pm news also shows a dew point of 63F that's what you start associating in your head. Like oh, that's what a 90/63 day felt like.... when the backyard was probably 85/68. To me it doesn't really matter, but just be consistent. Don't be a clown and pick different variables from different observations. Anyway, some decent mixing today. Can see BDL has hit 91/57 and ORH 84/57 in the 5-min data. Starting to mix out a bit even in some of the PWS.

It's good to see you coming to see the light. Humid day closer to the ocean... drying out nicely in the interior with upper 50s now. It's starting to paint an actual picture of dew points now. You could probably almost plot the boundary by comparing similar stations.

Odd you picked those two. These two probably are more relevant to you. ORH... 58F BDL... 59F

I haven’t said anything about dews in the 50s, lol. I can see the official observations and I know how most on here read them. And I’m all for picking a type of station and going with it, but honestly the “Temps at Tarmac, Dews in the Backyard” stuff gets old when trying to have an objective weather convo. It’s like some mind game to find the observations we want to see.

Dews of 61-62F at ORH and BDL... There’s nothing noteworthy about that in the least. Is this conversation for real? And yes PWS will probably be 5F higher but they always have been since the dawn of time...we judge how we feel by the ASOS readings you used to watch on Local on the 8s on TWC.

I actually find it the other way around here. Most of the PWS temps being lower than the ASOS sites in full afternoon glory.

The popular one locally from Ten Bends is Cream Puff War... that seems to be taking off and they are dangerous... go down really easily for the alcohol content, ha. If you see it I'd recommend it.

I've been trying for 5 minutes to figure out what he was trying to say. Anyway, what a stunning summer evening out there. 72/68 right now. The humidity certainly shot up after this morning's 2/3rds of an inch of rain, but temperatures are comfy. Only clouds left seem to be tied like balloons right over the high terrain.

I love that you can get Ten Bends down there. I know the guys that started that real well... one was an accountant at a hotel I worked at at the time and he always had the dream of brewing beer. They started in his garage and the place they brew in Morrisville is still pretty small. Love good success stories like that where now you know the product down there.

Swing for the fences every time. Once in a while he’ll hit one all the way into the river outside the ballpark in Cincinnati. But you rack up 200 strikeouts along the way.

Your high cannot be more than 68F today... Stem low was 59F and max 68F. Doesn’t scream summer but dews do look like they are 64-68F. You really do only care about dews, haha.

This is only the 9th summer of Dew debate. One group using model data which is based on dews at ASOS stations, and another who wants to use the Davis dews.

Damn bear got our compost again last night. What a mess. I’m going to have to build a concrete frame that he can’t just dismantle when he wants to eat.

Sunday is going to be hot. NWS has BTV at 97F on Sunday... even SLK at 1650ft pegged for 90F.

It poured for a while here with thunder earlier. Looks like a good half inch to an inch locally. 0.64”

Yeah that would be a huge winter here. We had 150-160" here in the village between 2 sites in 2010-11. That seasonal snowfall map looked like a NW flow model prog when it was all done. 2000-01 would probably be at that level of 175" locally at this level, with over 400" in former ski area measurements. It's a huge season.

Same around here... town homes seem to be the big desire. A few have popped up locally in the past year after a dearth of development. Now we just got a notice for a selectboard hearing for a gravel/sand pit area that's oddly hidden pretty well near here in town along the river and Rec Path that they are looking to turn into 15 new townhouse units.

You had a rough go of it the second half of last summer, IIRC. Always forecasting dews, struggling to hit the mark. Then again, your forecasts will suffer every year where summer trends drier in dews, but you'll nail every forecast in a summer that wants to be humid. It's a unique way of going about it... go big or go home.

Yeah that sounds about right. In my head I sort of lump you guys in with up to Dryslot's area, as I bet Dryslot has more in common with ORH snowfall than he does with Vermont at the same latitude. The snowfall climatology in the northeast seems to run in SW to NE axis, mirroring the coastline. Like up here we often share storms that deliver NW of ALB, more than we do with say far N.NY or Massena despite the similar latitude. I know you know this, ha, just speaking out loud. The main point though is what you made, if one region really does well, the other normally does pretty good too. Relative to normal as a percentage, I still think SNE often gets the nod in those "good/great" winters. Like 120% snowfall up here is a huge winter and I bet when that happens, it's not uncommon for BOS/BDL/ORH to have at least 120% of normal, maybe more. That's probably a pretty poor metric though to compare, as standard deviations would be more useful. Maybe that's where I'm stuck at, looking at it as a percentage of normal snowfall... it's hard to beat the non-immediate coastal SNE stations in that metric during a good winter.

73/60 here... we've been under pretty stout stratus layer this afternoon and evening. Not going to drop with a decent southerly flow mixing 20-25mph gusts even in the valley. You guys out east should enjoy a cooler evening tonight, almost like CAD ahead of the next round of precip and southerly flow, ha.

Ha, of course. That’s not what I meant with jackpots. I’m talking like I feel like in a slightly warmer regime we have less of a chance of getting 2-3” of sand while other folks get 18-24”. Not necessarily jackpots but just being even in the game in individual storms vs a season long slow build up. Sometimes you just want a good CCB dropping 1” QPF in 6 hours... I liked 2010-11.... that January while SNE was cleaning up we were at least doing 8-12’s in those storms. It does seem though like NNE gets above normal snows residually when SNE gets smoked, but it’s sort of like HubbDave “mehing” 2015’s 100+ inches at his place lol.

That’s an appropriate description, ha. Whenever you think winter is going bad, just let me break open the photos from 15-16 and you’ll suddenly feel all warm and fuzzy with only 4-6” on the ground.

Hahaha, making the rounds. Come and do snowmobile burnouts in our brown lawns as a thank you.