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This is some torrential rain at the mountain.

Not a lot of snowmaking windows coming up... mostly high elevation stuff. There is a decent cold shot on Tuesday night into Wednesday that would be better for low elevations but man it warms right back up. Later in the week looks poor for snowmaking from like Thursday through Saturday as we rot around -3C to +3C at 850mb. Really need -9C at 850mb or lower to get any real appreciable snowmaking going where wet-bulbs at 1,500ft and above are 27F or lower. Snowmaking looks ok Friday afternoon and night....then out of the question except highest spots on Saturday... then nothing Sunday or Monday. This type of look is no snowmaking to be honest Thanksgiving or Friday. No snowmaking after Tuesday and Wednesday. It's going to be interesting how ski season starts. Right now it's not looking overly optimistic IMO knowing what is needed for most places to make snow. Getting a little concerned to be honest going into December, ha. We need some -10C at 850mb for more than 12 hours at a time, ha.

Raining and it is so dark outside right now at 2:10pm that the lights have activated in the plaza here. It looks darker out now than like 9pm in July.

Summers back broken yet?

Yeah I think given the sparse obs, we’d have started as snow and then rained or mixed in NNE. Stayed all snow in NY state in the cold sector west of the low.

The first ever mention of a SWFE? After further reading it seemed it meant a snowstorm on the southwest side of the storm. Deep snowfall closing the Erie Canal in NY with 3" of rain in PVD and road washouts in Great Falls, NH? It does say in another section that it started as snow in parts of eastern New England, with 5" at Lowell and 7" at Portsmouth followed by heavy rain. Can envision how it happened, pretty interesting storm and observations. Thanks for sharing.

Light freezing rain/drizzle leaving work. SUV had some light glaze starting. Car thermo said 32F.

Winter exists at 1,500ft is the motto right now, ha. Stick season exists below.

Any elevation above like 1,000-1,500ft is just absolutely glowing white.

They aren’t getting any data from their web cam up there. There’s likely a good foot there… my guess would be depth falls in the 10-14” range. Been trying to crowd-source some human observations. One winter we did it entirely human observation but it’s tough now without the lift running.

It’s not about holding, it’s about believing. Believe in it.

Had a half inch dusting this morning (grass blades poking up through type dusting) but around 1300ft is when you cross into the other winter portal. Like snow on trees, plowing, etc.

I think it’s heavy graupel (rimed) as there’s a lot of those dippin’ dots mixed in. Big dense, QPF rich frozen material. Snow growth was not maximized to say the least. The snowbanks look more like a 6-10” snowfall instead of 4-5”.

Periods of light snow today enough to dust cars and roads again, lots of blowing and drifting snow now. The mountain feels like an island of mid-winter right now. It’s so much different than surrounding areas.

Been busy this morning but had about 4-5" of absolute sand at 1,500ft.... this stuff is dense, almost like sleety snow. Must be some serious QPF in it, it's heavy. 8-12" above 1800-2000ft where it was colder for most of the daytime precip yesterday. We have some light snow falling now. Looks like winter. Only a half inch down in the village at 750ft.

Getting 7-10 split here right now. J.Spin into MPV had to have been getting some decent precip rates with the 30dbz Winooski Gap echoes south of here. Cold season convective bands love going through there. Then, to the north of here is still getting some broader NW cyclonic flow.

It's impressive. By far the most impressive snowmaking effort you'll see in northeastern US (and likely the whole continent). The World Cup is an awesome event from the "energy" it creates in all facets. There's no other trail that gets crushed with as much liquid equivalent as Superstar. That system just pumps water into the atmosphere.

18z EURO with a change to snow Thursday night as that wave rides by?

Ha good catch, I was thinking airport for some reason. Even that mile though... everyone would be out on the Redstone campus green, sunning themselves in the first warmth of April or May. As freshmen we all made the mistake of heading down to the lake thinking it would be better to hang out there in the warmth than up on campus. Get down to North Beach and it's like 20-30 degrees colder with a wind off the 40 degree water. Back into the car and back up the hill to UVM where it was warm and outside the cold sink bubble of the water.

Finally getting a little accumulation down at 750ft on the cars. The difference between here and 1500ft is crazy right now. Almost like blizzard conditions it looks like from a text from my friend up there. Heavy snow moving sideways with blowing and drifting.

Yeah I can tell you those green trees in the city streets haven’t sniffed freezing yet along the water and urban heat. Probably like 38F has been the coldest there, barely under 40F.

They’ll give you a run for your money on first freeze by the warm lake and urban environment. You might even beat the waterfront there. Then in the spring when everyone else is leaf out that area is still chilled as icebergs float in the harbor lol. Learn the hard way at UVM how much lag BTV downtown has because of that lake. 75F in April at UVM and 46F at the waterfront three miles away.

That view looks like it couldn’t be any further from what I experienced all day today… and only like 15-20 miles away as the crow flies. Meanwhile the plows are out on the other side of Chittenden County. BTV is in another world, it’s so awesome the local variation.

Snowing where it should be snowing in mid-November.