powderfreak

Much needed soaking with widespread 0.75-1.25” up the east slope of the Greens. Even some spot 1.50”. That SSE low level jet and some higher surface moisture/dews seems to have solidly over-perform models so far. Very efficient sheet rains right now even as it lightens up. Had 0.90” before heading to work.

A/C is on tonight. Strong south winds gusting through the windows earlier, and it’s still 72/59 at 10:30pm. Windows shut and mini splits on… can’t do 70s outside after 10pm without A/C. We are staying well-mixed and breezy ahead of the rain. BTV at 77F still. FVE at 73F is interesting too.

Fort Carson in Colorado Springs, CO today. Hail accumulation and flash flooding.

You should run what it’s got up here. Been very dry since May 1, lawns in spots look much worse than that. I just never feel nor care for non-native cut grasses. It should be brown in summer if cut short. It’s just not a good native indicator of dry. We’ll get rain this week anyway. Ill try to get some pics of “damage” with burnt Rec fields.

Pretty widespread precip totals on all models over the next week and a half. Rain chances every day or every other day... so hopefully those worried about lawns will get a cool wet 10 day stretch to help keep things green.

Looks like that’s the ticket. Good call, I honestly thought soil temperature played a larger role in leaf out but looks like it’s one minor variable that is easily be overcome by the more important temperature and sun. I would’ve guessed sun and soil temperature over air temperature. It seems it involves “a combination of signals including the weather becoming warmer, the days getting longer/increase in the amount of sunlight, the soil becoming warmer, and nutrients & water becoming more available.” But the most important are: “At the simplest level, most experts agree that a combination of temperature and photoperiodic cues is responsible for the timing of budburst in most temperate woody plants.”

Then why does leaf out vary from early to late spring depending on temps/weather? The sun angle would be the same every single year. Soil temp doesn’t matter?

For sure and it almost adds to what I think. Over all the years that build climo, how many are there that involve prolonged dry stretches with one big QPF event? Probably a decent amount. It seems to be how we get our precip in the warm season in the northeast. It's probably be doing this in the means for hundreds of years. Might not be that abnormal to have some big water events, but decent stretches of dryness. The vegetation will be fine and survive. It's hearty to that type of water pattern in New England. The non-naturally occurring (planted or seeded) stuff though suffers much more like lawns and other vegetation. This stuff of "we need to water" is modern issue.

Yeah I don’t know… part of me thinks we over-estimate how wet we think it’s supposed to be in this forum discussion. The average I’ve always looked at was 3/4ths to an inch per week is about average for most spots. You get a 2” event, good for at least a couple weeks of climo. A 3-4” event covers a month. Also this expectation that suburban lawn grass is supposed to stay green without help, likely plays a role. Folks see lawn grass going dry (but not wild tall grasses) and assume it’s been more abnormally dry to climo than reality?

What? That sounded like pretty normal to me, why I asked. Normal is usually 3” to 4” per month at most stations. Looks like May is 3.21” normal at TAN, ASOS was less than two-tenths below normal (3.03”). June so far is 0.69”, normal is 1.38”… so that’s a bit low. TAN is 3.72” to your 3.95”. Average is 4.59”. So you’re about 0.60” under. Just need a good downpour.

What’s the average during that time?

Why does it seem like it’s either the full dog days of deep summer, or like 40s and rain with snow in the hills? Like 48 hours of some light dews while temps are not hot… it’s akin to like the first chance of snow showers in November with a slight chance of a mulch dusting in a few spots. Some enjoy that, others are like meh, show me a snowstorm. That’s all Scooter seems to be saying. He wants the 70F dews and heat (aka the real snowstorm) while DIT is getting excited for the passing snow showers or taste of 60F dews. Just two different strokes of the same weather.

Excellent Sunday. 70s in the valley and low-60s up high felt like the dog days of summer after the last 9 days or so. Even got the dog a few rolls in the last couple piles of snow remaining.

It’s only been two full months since folks were told to install to get some dews into the low-60s.

Interesting. Seems out of character for DIT to find a couple torch spots possibly approach 75F and call it a 75-80F day down there.

Oh it’s 100% fine. It’s chamber of commerce weather. But not sure it’s full summer either. 75F in the sun is my ideal weather for all outdoor activities, except swimming.

Summer is more of a vibe than a number it seems. Hottest out there is like 75F at HFD. BDL max looks like 73F.

When do you think where you live starts seeing summer weather?

Here's something I've noticed looking at western mountain web cams... this is Utah's Guardsman Pass that actually opened today. But that's not what stands out to me. In many of these western mountain areas still melting out from last winter, there are a lot of trees leafing out and greening up despite significant snowpack. In this cam view there are some trees greening up on the left side but they seem to be in barely snow-free zones around their roots. But the ones on the right side are in like 2 feet of super-dense remaining June snowpack. The vegetation is wild out west... just greens up and leaf's out regardless of snow on the ground.

Stations around town ranging from 0.15 - 0.67" depending on who got hit best. Very localized downpours at times. Basically sums up the past week. Varying layers of clouds, passing showers, temps in the 50s. What a start to June.

Occasional showers. Not a lot of QPF but enough to get you wet outside on a fairly regular basis.

Nah it was from 2022. Heres the full clip from SNY. Same green hoodie.

Can’t think of anything more cliche to puff out a chest and say “I could put people in the hospital.”

It actually sounds like that was from last year after a scuffle with the Cardinals. April 22, 2022.

Just spinning around and around and around. Are we going to go a full 7 days of this ULL influencing our weather?