NorthShoreWx

I did some research into ISP snowfall records years ago and came away with the belief that those datasets are not of equal quality. Perhaps the 1503 day streak is correct but I'm not confident.

I'm always disappointed in how inaccurate the NESIS storm maps are. Not just for here, but for example, I can show you photos confirming about 4 feet of snow at around 500 feet elevation in Harriman much of it from the late February 2010 storm (you can also cross ref old PNS reports). I think I understand the reason locally to be that they relied on one or two observations to cover central LI, with Setauket-Strongs neck having been one of them until fairly recently. That station didn't always measure even once in 24 hours, plus it is surrounded by water. For Rockland County and eastern Orange, there was probably a low snowfall report (possibly accurate for its location) that was overweighted in developing that map. The maps are useful in approximating a very broad picture of snowfall distribution, but have a lot of the details wrong. I think there is more data and better tools for abstracting the data into visual maps available than these are utilizing.

18.3" here (approx 50% of average) 10.8" for February (only 0.9" below average) 27 days with at least 1" of snow cover and 46 days with at least a trace. No records, but enough presence to remember what snow looks like. It's all gone now except for sheltered areas and piles.

Once again the AI is wrong. It contradicts itself right in that screenshot. I assume you don't like to read past the top line. You shouldn't take shortcuts to prove dubious points. That's what politicians are for. I believe there was a -16 in the 1800s

What's 100 years to an AI?

I feel the need to add to the controversy by stating that I think this winter would have been better if there was more snow. In other news, when was the last post about future weather?

They are probably happier watching Al Roker than reading here.

I don't have to. I'll decide when we get there. Perception is perception.

I lived it too. It wasn't that cold. People have different perceptions; that isn't going to change. I am not in agreement with banning speech in this thread (e.g., 'it wasnt cold compared to a couple of decades ago') to back up someone's perception. The depth of emotion is surprising.

Meaningfully colder? probably 10 years. Pretty sad.

This progression of daily maxima would not be considered a heat wave using 90⁰x3 97-98-89-99-89-96-101-89-97-91-88

Edit: thanks to all who made this possible

It'll really feel like LI spring when the seabreeze kicks in.

See Bluewave's post.

Really?

I still haven't seen a reasonable justification for this position.

There's lies, damned lies, and statistics

It's a head in the sand approach.

Only 39% of the winters in Don's stats were warmer than this one (61% were colder than this "cold" winter). There seems to be an argument in some posts about where to place the threshold for whining about cold weather. Whining is unhealthy.

From the link that you posted: "Don't brush off that yearly feeling as simply a case of the "winter blues" or a seasonal funk that you have to tough out on your own. Take steps to keep your mood and motivation steady throughout the year." Getting out and allowing yourself to enjoy a cold morning sounds like a big step to combating SAD. https://www.rvia.org/news-insights/physical-and-mental-benefits-outdoor-recreation https://extension.usu.edu/healthwellness/physical/does-physical-activity-improve-symptoms-of-seasonal-affective-disorder

I was suggesting a non-meteorological reason why some (potentially including myself) might do that. I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with the rest. I think there are pros and cons to the choices of time periods to define as a baseline. As for the caveating of multiple posts with ~'the past was different' being inefficient, it's better than ending every sentence with "lol", lol.

Because the past we are speaking of is very recent and part of our experience for those of us pre Gen Z. Maybe warming will go on forever (and maybe it won't), but the new "normals" aren't normal and they have a short history.

Asphalt

Without us blocking for you, Nyack becomes "the coast" and bluewave might as well be back in Long Beach.

I found some snow today https://photos.app.goo.gl/e9GV3EYofdiq7izm9