snowman21

So no more 80s for Torchtober? Are we done until Morch?

There's a lot of brown out there. Really obvious driving up 684 into the Danbury area. Doesn't mean that every tree is going brown or will go brown, but there's a lot of them out there.

What free market?

Are they ever going to fix the thermometer at Logan or are we stuck with it this way forever?

You can make your point without taking cheap shots at a kid.

Wow I didn't even think the scale went higher than that 36.0-48.0 color. I guess I know where I'm retiring to. I always figured it was gonna be on some mountaintop out west just for this reason.

Mostly automated the same way point and click is. NWS can obviously tweak specific grid points, but a computer does most of the work.

Never understood why there are people who do not see the value in this. We're literally shitting where we eat by continuing to ruin the planet.

The main participants are getting older and will eventually retire to Florida for the CoC weather so they can enjoy sunshine and 70s/80s beach weather year round. I'm with you though and have no use for temperatures above 50, and would take 12 Januarys a year if it were possible.

Mugs and jugs, margs and oyster shucking on the beach this weekend.

Hoping to crack 50 tonight. OKX has 51 here on the pnc, but they've been takin' em up all week it seems.

Depends on the winds. Still a pretty good breeze blowing out there, so we're already wasting prime time which is usually from just before sunset to about 9 when you expect the quickest drop off.

BDL has reached 90 from Sep 22 and later 16 times in its history, while BOS has done it 16 times also (6 of those occurrences were before BDL's existence). Since 1980, 6 times at BDL and once at BOS. The back to back 90s (bolded for dates where both stations did it simultaneously): BDL 9/22-23/1914 BDL 9/22-23/1970 BDL 9/25-26/2007 BDL 9/24-25/2017 BOS 9/22-23/1895 BOS 9/22-23/1914 BOS 9/22-23/1970 Single dates where both reached 90 (excluding the above): 9/22/1931 10/7/1963 9/22/1980 9/26/2007

Couple of reasons. There's a WMO standard which began with the 1901-30 normals, so it's been convention for over a century. Also the general statistics rule that you need at least 30 data points to accurately estimate the mean. NCDC does calculate supplemental normals based on other time periods, but the official ones are done over 30 year periods worldwide. Edit: to add to this a quick google search pops up this page from NCDC which basically says the same thing: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/defining-climate-normals-new-ways

I don't think it's more and more developments, at least at first glance. For example, Falls Village which is in the far NW corner of CT by the NY/MA line where it's about as middle of nowhere as you can get in CT, used to have an average first frost of 9/16, and now a decade later it's up to 9/23. I don't think there's too much developing going on in a place with a population just over 1,000 people. Some of it is likely methodology in calculating the average, so it's important to note that the way normals are calculated does change over time, but that likely does not explain all of the moves. We've also seen reduction in snow cover days at some of these middle of nowhere in the woods stations as well like Norfolk at 1400 ft elevation. The Falls Village average last frost moved up from 5/30 to 5/24, so the growing season there has increased by two weeks in the last ten years (officially 50% probability of frost free period was 108 days and now it's 120).

In falls of yore even BDL averaged a first frost in September. They've gone from 9/30 in the 1961-90 normals to 10/4 in the 1981-2010 normals, and you can probably add a few more days on to that for the 1990-2020 normals coming in a little under two years.

I'd rather HVN than GON.

55 here in SW CT

That 94 probably isn't gonna happen. It's only happened that late in the season twice (9/22/1970, 9/20/1983) at BDL, has never happened at PVD, BDR, and ORH, although BOS has six occurrences (1881, 1895, 1914, and 1983).

Then what do you do when 12z ticks back the other way? Ryan already had 3-6 basically to the CT/RI border and said stay tuned because things were trending towards a bigger hit. As it stands now, he can just drag that 3-6 purple shading 40 miles westward over New London County.

Sun is coming out here in far SW CT. What a gradient this thing is gonna have.

Why? TAN is generally a good spot to be in these types of storms. Did you think Cape Cod, MA, USA, North America, Earth was gonna have its own private storm?

I think the biggest problem is getting it to accumulate. Hours and hours of snow and wet roads and frosted tips of grass are all we have to show for it. Upton says take 'em down, only has 1-3 here now with any meaningful snow moving out by late morning/midday.

Interesting seeing the school buses driving around in what is like a snow globe with big flakes falling at a moderate clip. Poor kids are probably the only ones in the state having to go.

Light rain here to start off nor'easter #3.