snowman21

They are later. Here are the Connecticut average first frost dates based on the 1971-2000 and 1981-2010 normals to give you an idea of how much they've moved. ID Station 1971-2000 1981-2010 Change(days) ------ ------------------------ --------- --------- ------------ BDR BRIDGEPORT SIKORSKY AP 10/18 10/21 3 BRLC3 BURLINGTON 9/28 10/03 5 DANC3 DANBURY 9/26 10/04 8 FVLC3 FALLS VILLAGE 9/16 9/23 7 GTNC3 GROTON 10/08 10/17 9 BDL HARTFORD 9/30 10/04 4 MHLC3 MANSFIELD HOLLOW LAKE 9/20 9/24 4 NFKC3 NORFOLK 2 SW 9/22 9/29 7 NRWC3 NORWICH PUB UTIL PLT 9/29 10/04 5 NWPC3 SHEPAUG DAM 9/28 9/26 -2 STFC3 STAMFORD 5 N 10/01 10/06 5 STRC3 STORRS 10/02 10/06 4 WTPC3 WEST THOMPSON LAKE 9/19 9/26 7

it's crazy how warm September has been the last couple of decades. You can see it in longer growing seasons and peak foliage being pushed later and later into the fall.

That's nothing. Pete's trees are already bare. You're just now hitting the leathery stage that he reaches in late July.

Pikes Peak is 14kft and has a road to the top. I-70 climbs up over 11kft through mountains. Hawaii has one that goes up 13kft. Just googling around seems like there are tons of roads that go up or through mountains in the U.S., some much higher in elevation.

This board talk about Mt. Washington like it's Everest. It's 6,000 feet. That's barely a hill out west. Practically the elevation of Denver.

Mean temp this month is 73.1 so far which looks like it would beat out 1906's 72.9 for the top spot if it holds.

Yeah I would never go on it unless I was desperate to bypass 95 and the post rd. If there's even the slightest bit of inclement weather trees come crashing down. The interesting part of that is when it was built there weren't all those trees around. I've seen pictures of what it looked like when it first opened and it didn't look like a highway jammed through a forest as it does today.

That's called Thursday on the parkway. That highway is a death trap from falling trees, curves and hills, 100 ft exit ramps, and on ramps with stop signs at the end.

The models use AMDAR data already, so I don't now how much more useful data you'd get from a dedicated balloon launching site at BDL.

There's also the old Taunton co-op (TAUM3) that pre-dated the ASOS (TAN). Not sure how far back that one goes it looks like it stopped reporting when the ASOS went live, so maybe the airfield had a co-op before automation took over.

An ASOS costs more than most people's house, so it's a pretty solid system when properly maintained. I guess people have a beef with the siting of meteorological instruments in places that measure the free atmosphere, and other than airports or a farm where else can you do that?

Here is the same table in a standardized scale. Standard deviations taken from NCDC's 1981-2010 climate normals. Bottom grid (z-scores) is just the top grid divided by the middle grid.

Here are the departure splits between the highs and lows. This summer's departures were not driven by warm nights. In 9 of the 12 station-months, the high temperature departure was greater than the low temperature departure, and the number of days where the high was warmer relative to average compared to the low was also greater.

Without A/C units, how do you plan on surviving Torchtember?

That's the gift that keeps on giving the whole year.

Wow that forecast really going out on a limb there. 75% of falls going back 20 years are above normal.

Hard to cool off at night anymore.

Might have. At the SNE climate sites there were upper-90s in September in 2018, also in 2015, and 2013.

Nice early fall feel out there today. Cool this morning, and now sunny with temps slowly climbing through the 70s at midday.

Keep in mind we're losing 3 minutes of daylight per day, means are declining, sun angle is rapidly declining. It's not just about the pattern. There's a reason climo is climo, and even the mighty BDL 'mac has trouble getting to 90 after about the 23rd of August. If Ryan's 10-day is right, which takes us to the last week of August, yesterday and today are critical for BDL breaking the record. If you're expecting a late summer like '83 or '73 then yeah I guess it doesn't matter and we'll blow past the record, but I wouldn't bet on it.

90-degree days at BDL: 1983 38 2002 35 2020 34 2010 34 1965 34 2018 32 1966 32 2016 31 1991 31 1988 30 1973 30

BDL has to get to #35 today or it'll be like the Sox 5 1/2 out with 12 to play against Yanks, Rays, and Jays.

But even in this climate BDL isn't putting up big 90+ numbers in September. We have to be at 36 or 37 by the end of this month to have a real shot and next week isn't looking good. Sneaking in that extra day tomorrow will be important. Expecting more than a couple of 90+ days in September even in this climate is asking a lot. Normal at BDL I think is 0.7 days and we've averaged 2.2 over the past decade despite how warm Septembers have been.

Maybe we get a cool wet September with lots of mostly cloudy 54/74 type days at BDL. Eventually we have to have a September that's not all blow torch all the time.

Take the under. Gonna be tough enough just to tie.