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Ya, I think that goes back to my personal preference. I know March and occasionally April can have some decent winter events 2-8" but that personally does nothing for me and by April in Toronto the averages fly from mid 40s to upper 50s by the end. So Id rather 45-50F and sunny and 55-60F in the 2nd half of April then track a 3-6" snowstorm. Snow to me at that time of year is more annoying because im ready to start planting and cleaning up the yard.

Since it is banter. Ive mentioned before that this winter has already been given a C because of its decent start for my backyard. However, Im pretty confused by all the optimism and goal post moving and doubling down on winter. Its Mid December and though winter is nowhere close to done, December looks zzzz so that means a lot of places will have to really start crushing it come January and February. At what date do we start to see more of the board throw in the towel? If in two weeks the long range still looks garbage? Mid January?

haha ya I notice it. While not in the same boat I do want winter weather for November-February. Once November hits im pumped for that first 1-3" light snow event. That same event in March though I hate it and love the higher sun angle which destroys that tiny snowfall. By March a snowstorm to get me pumped and tracking would have to be 8-12"+ anything smaller and im annoyed routing for a pattern change that will bring sustained 40s during the day.

With no cold air anywhere to be found it feels more like tracking storms in late October. Higher elevations and strong storms that generate their own cold air will have snow, aside from that the rest of us are rain

Looks like a decent system for Muskoka this weekend. another 4-8" to just keep adding to their base.

haha ya but for them I think using YTZ would show better that their thinking isn't that far from reality (For lakeshore areas and south)

Toronto is cashing in big time. Nothing down here just south of Hamilton. Since temperatures have been so marginal its going to cause some weird memories for this winter. I see Buffalo Metro is rain and 34F while its suburbs are having one of its bigger snow events of the year with around 2-3". The first snowstorm from a few weeks ago will be remembered in Brampton where my dad recorded 10" but my moms house down on the lake in Mississauga saw trace amounts. So already my mom views this winter as barely starting and my dad says its off to a fast start haha

Nothing here just south of Hamilton but looks like Toronto cashed in again with widespread 2-4" reported

There are several side effects to my Bills tailgating the following morning but I continually do it. Sorry, I know you're trying to be serious. The government will have to be very transparent about possible side effects and for the citizens to not be alarmed by them.

What im starting to wonder is NHL and NBA regular season is little to no fans. But at what point do the cases start plummeting because of vaccine roll out/mask use/herd immunity? It would be amazing to see NHL and NBA venues with fans for the playoffs, even if just 50-75%. Playoffs start mid April normally for both leagues.

I think zero expectations is the way to go into this winter. I think we will see a period of storminess but overall I expect a warm winter in the lower Great Lakes with below average snowfall. Though that will be very dependent on location even in the Lower lakes. Toronto has jumped out ahead fast but just 60 Miles across the lake in WNY they are off to a brutal start. December-writings on the wall for this month. Every storm (aside from pockets like Toronto) in Great Lakes and now New England has underperformed due to warmth. More sloppy rain and wet snow systems but the tables been set. January-Interesting area wide. February-Interesting but torch really starts to show up March-Early spring with tornado outbreaks much further north (Ohio,Indiana ect..)

I love the random snow event in the Odessa/Midland region of Texas haha. If you liked all 4 seasons and tended to more enjoy warmth but still the occasional snowstorm (thinking when im retired haha) West and North Texas is pretty unique. More snow/ice storms because of elevation but so far down south that you go from 25F and a 4-8" snowstorm right back into the 60s and and 70s with sun in January. Now that I think of it, if you were to use the census bureau definition of the Southern US, is Texas the snowiest? (Outside of the elevated Appalachian ranges)

I think this is more banter section. But your right the Lower lakes and lower midwest aren't favourable for sustained cold and snow. We should all know this but we still all like to complain (me included but like I said in banter this winter has checked off the boxes for me and already gets a C no matter what) I want cold and snow N/D/J and start to not care come February, certainly don't care about any snowstorms after March 5-10th

I can answer both these relatively the same. Low expectations and low checklist is because of where I live/lived. I used to live right along the lakeshore in Mississauga so numerous winter events were slop, and now I live up on the escarpment but in the Hamilton/Niagara area so a lot of events are similar to lakeshore living (some aren't like Tuesdays storm) I also have a cottage though up hwy 11 in the Almaguin highlands (Parry Sound district but closer to hwy 11) and I go up there a bunch in the winter. They currently have 12" of snow on the ground and unlikely they see the ground again until April. Most winters up there max out around 25-40" on the ground from Late December-Mid March and regulary dip below -20C even in the warmest winters for the GTA. Its just a completely different world only 2.5-3.5 hours north of the city. So I guess long story short is I have a basic checklist for my home, but that's because I know what "real" winter is supposed to look like and the GTA will never have it lol.

Ive had 1 decent winter storm and 1 mediocre slop fest with 2 other events that ranged from 1-2". Im already over 10" for the season and hit my typical once a season 6" snowstorm. Ive checked off the boxes and with the 6" snow coming December 1st it made for the Christmas feeling. I got lucky threading the needle with the 2nd storm and personally I enjoy front loaded winters so im content now. It can rain, it can snow, I could get an ice storm, but since my main winter boxes have been checked and checked early im already playing with house money haha.

Ya, I agree with this. Thanksgiving and Easter here are on par where its normally close family dinners (10-15 people ect..) whereas Christmas is when my friends and family fly "home" to Toronto from Calgary, Vancouver, Edmonton, Halifax ect.. and its the typical US thanksgiving feel where we see distant family, head to a bar to catch up with old friends ect.. Thanksgiving though is pretty engrained in Ontario (cant speak for other provinces) where there's town fall fairs, closing up the cottage, family time. That all said Christmas for Canada is going to be a mess I think. Most of my friends didn't even really comment on US thanksgiving being crazy as they themselves have already booked tickets home for Christmas and some in Ontario have booked ski trips out to Alberta ect.. Lots of travel I think is going to happen in Canada.

someone would be left out but mid winter gives the best chance for them. seen it a few times where a strong Alberta clippers gives 4-7" across the upper midwest and a gulf low starts coming north around the same time.

haha ya, Im not sure if he means one of those classic winter storm watches from Missouri-to WNY and Southern Ontario with a dry powdery 6-10". Ive had one mediocre 3" slop followed by rain (when YYZ recorded 8") and just now had a 6" heavy wet snow from the recent system. I classify it as a winter storm since it now looks like deep winter outside even if it took 24 hours for 6" of snow to fall.

This won't make up for missing a lot of the storm but it's a nice consolation prize. Im thinking most of WNY wakes up with 2-5" of snow on the ground which judging from your seasonal total so far easily doubles it.

Ya, the same thing is happening up here even with elevation. Im thinking some of the heavier bands today and tonight push you guys to 3" with a few lollipops of 4-5". Considering 1-2" was all that was talked about for the Buffalo-Niagara Metro Id say its an okay event

For the Lakeshore GTA and Niagara/Hamilton this will be our first legitimate snowfall even though it takes 24 hours haha. Looks to be widespread 4-6" with isolated 8" pockets possible up on the escarpment. Im already at 4" with another 12+ hours of light snow. Last weekends storm I ended with around 3" followed by rain which washed away a lot of it, so this one is a bigger event for those that missed last weekends.

At least for the GTA this will end up being a slow system but still will leave the region 4-8". I think Buffalo-Niagara has a chance to make this an okay 3-5" system as well. Not the way everyone would like but it will certainly make it feel like winter. We were flirting with upper 70s and 80s not even a month ago.

sign me up for this haha. 3-6" in my neck of the woods

I guess this is where the northern Niagara and Hamilton region will rejoice a bit. Id rather 1-3" instead of a monster cutter that gives me nothing but cool windy days haha. The next weekend storm means nothing for us in the Niagara region so our best chance at snow is with Monday-Tuesday system. Assuming there's no big SW LES The Buffalo-Hamilton corridor could end up being missed by two snowstorms within two weeks with people on either side of this 100ish mile zone getting some decent snow

Happy that you guys in most of the GTA snuck in that legit snowstorm. Poor lakeshore and Hamilton/Niagara haha. Since I only got 3" followed by rain my expectations are still very low haha. Im still content with 2-4" and would classify that as a big win for my backyard.