gravitylover

When I had my ski shop in Patterson one of the kids that worked for me also made snow there at night. They used to spend ~$10k for electricity and air per night making snow. That was about 20 years ago, imagine what it cost now to run those huge diesel compressors with diesel costing nearly triple what it did back then.

I like April

If that jet runs underneath us we have a better chance at white, or at least frozen, storms rather than wet.

I have garlic greening up today. @JustinRP37Catskills foothills? I hope you weren't thinking Patterson. That's solidly in the southern Taconics. Someone mentioned spotted lanternflies coming out. We should hope so, they'll freeze and die before being able to breed and lay eggs again.

Yeah, warm warm warm, heavy rain then instaflip to insanely heavy snow around 8pm. 17" of paste fell in a matter of hours, trees had started leafing out way early due to all of that warmth the preceding two weeks and chaos ensued. It was a mess...

Yeah it is. I don't really want to do it in the driveway in the winter by myself so I'll probably pay the shop I usually use for stuff I don't feel like doing. At least they offer a solid guarantee and they do a lot of them (and they're cheap). This fog today is terrible.

That's some serious fog out there, visibility is under 500 feet.

I haven't actually stopped there yet but I've had their stuff a bunch of times and love it. It's at the top of my hit list after I scrape up the $$ to replace the engine in my current vehicle and I'm mobile again.

I drove past your zone today and it was 2-3° warmer than pretty much everywhere else. I think I saw 62 here and along the Taconic it was mostly around 60 except in central Dutchess. We stopped at Cooper's Daughter distillery on Rt 23, it's all outdoors which is cool but it's a mudpit. Good thing they have some awesome bourbons and vodkas so I didn't care that my shoes nearly got sucked off my feet.

@wdrag I was thinking similarly, if the jet can stay south around 35N we have much better chances. I wasn't here in Jan 93 when it set up like this out west so don't remember the result here but I do remember the result in 94 and it was mostly positive and that was also a west to east firehose.

Funny how all but one of the highs is nearly 40 years ago which is outside the current climate change induced averages. It's also interesting that the 3 lows inside the heat island are in the current higher averages. Hey honey, we need some groceries. - Yeah I know but I can't get out of the house.

I guess I kinda have to be ok with my 2" (for a while anyway)

If that were to happen I'd also hope for it to be warm. Cold and dry sucks and why bother wasting the $$ on heating costs. As of 1/1 those costs will be going through the roof in CT when their electric rates will double for over 80% of the homes and businesses.

I guess the upside to the way the month played out is many of the regions that have been very dry started to put some moisture down. We've now brought our soil moisture up to where it needs to be to move past the short term drought and the upper Midwest and the Rockies > west are in a good position to also get the ground moisture in a better place.

Great. Let's fool the plants into thinking it's time to grow again.

Again, IMO it's because we don't have the significant southward transport of cold Arctic air coming down the east side of western ridges that creates a wider temp spread as it encounters the warm ocean. That cold air was also usually deeper and had some staying power so it kept us colder for longer as opposed to now where the cold is more transient because it's shallower and moving faster with the jet stream because the ridge isn't there. Someone else had noted recently that we don't see that cold stream coming down the Hudson Valley very often anymore either.

Mostly overhead.

IMO not really. My recollection is we used to see more quick moving clipper type systems riding down the east side of western ridges that brought us 2-6" snowfalls.

Most years they do a significant water release going into the cold season, they didn't do that this year because levels were already at or below where they needed to be post release. We've had close enough to normal precip since then so the system has maintained the needed levels. The trick now is getting enough snow and rain to bring them up to, or close to, full as we get to spring.

Where are you? That looks like forecasts I used to see in Tahoe 30 years ago.

Happy ChrismaHanaKwanzika

Good thing too! It actually helped that the car doors on our black car sitting in the supermarket parking lot this morning.

Made it to 0, looks like 1 or 2 is as low as it got down in town on Rt6.

2/-5/W5 CLR makes it a 53° drop since 6am. I'm glad the wind is so light or I'm sure there would be lots more tree damage and power problems.

The current temp of 2° makes it a 53° drop.