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I lived slightly north of that "yardstick" at 700' elev in a northern Morris lake community. Even in Maine I've never seen a run of big storms like we had from March 1956 thru Feb. 3-4, 1961. Those endpoints were 24" (maybe more in the latter's howling wind) and March 21-22, 1958 was about the same. Add Feb 1958, March and Dec 1960 and the JFK inaugural storm in Jan 1961 and there's 7 events 18-24" in a 60-month span. We also had 12" paste bombs in April 1956 and March 1961.

Forecast here for 12/25-26/2002 was 10-16". GYX had 18, PWM 16, Augusta east (On Togus Pond) 15, Belgrade Village 8, and 12 miles NW of that last, 1". Apart from the mid-November storm and 13.8" on 1/4-5, 2002-03 was cold and dry. Season total of 67.8" is right at 75% of average.

Just had to check. Since we moved to Maine in 1973, I count 27 snowfalls of 6"+ at DCA. We (at our then current domicile) had 6"+ on 4 of those occasions: 1/22/1987 1993 superstorm 1/25/2000 2/12-13/2014. Missing just the pinky

That's odd - can't recall any other time I had accumulating snow from a significant all snow event before PWM. The contrast to that was 1/2/1987. PWM was reporting snow about 4 AM, and I waited all morning at the AUG office for first flakes, which didn't come until about 12:30 - 8+ hours difference? (Of course when it came we went from 1st flakes to 1/8 mile visibility in less than 60 seconds.)

Never touched a stick before going there, but I spent spring vacation that first year fielding bounces off the handball court wall at home until I was comfortable tossing and catching, then played defense at intramurals. No way I'd compete with folks that had sticks in their hands before they could walk. Did play on the football team and experienced the radical difference between the two coaches. The varsity FB coach would say things like "You better play your best or you'll lose 65-0!" Had the varsity Lax coach for freshman FB, and he'd say things like "Make that easy cross-block and the back will get 20 yards; 4-5 plays like that and the other defense will be cooked." Slightly different approach.

Good to know, though I'm still puzzled by the lack of change on 12/25/17, as my notes have the snowfall starting before 5 AM with 5" 7-noon; PWM should've had flakes before I did. And Frostbite had the goods faster than I could type.

I think GYX should look again. I found four 12/25s with 6"+ (07, 08, 13, 17) and 4 others with 1-4", though that 4" year (2005) had zero by 12/26 as the Grinch stole it. I assume that PWM measures depth at noon, or why 2002 shows zero for 12/25 - the 16" dump started early PM. That also explains why the 12/25 storm (5") doesn't affect depth until the 26th.

I grew up in Morris County, where that 37.7 foolishness is located. However, if the current models verify I could see then getting 15-20. (While I might get 1/2") Still looking good for Metro Baltimore and Phin. When I lived there it was total panic with everything shutting down for 4 or 6". Spent 2 years there while at Hopkins. 64-65 had nothing beyond 4-5" and things went okay. They got 7-8" on Jan 27, 1966 and that slowed things more, but when 15" and 50 mph winds followed 3 days later the city shut down. I think Orleans Street was the only E-W road open and Charles Street the only N-S though the adjacent St. Paul opened the next day. However, 10 days later side streets in the Hopkins area (2900 Charles) were still snowbound.

Plenty of changes from now to then, but at present my old NNJ haunts get 18" while we get a dusting here and the snow-loving grandkids (who only saw white ground last winter when they visited us for Thanksgiving) get a couple inches of slop and RA+.

Agree. Haven't seen 18z but 12z had maybe 0.2" of mess tomorrow night then nothing until a day 10 Grinch.

As you should be, thanks to currents and drawdowns. Some years back, one of the Brochu family, with decades of experience riding in the area, was lost when he went thru the ice.

Not my favorite scenario, when my old NNJ digs get 18-20 while we repeat the 0.2" from Wednesday evening. Plenty of time to change - could get nothing at all.

And I have no a idea why the pic was reproduced on my post.

Since our agency has managed the Bigelow Preserve for 40+ years, I was quite interested in the article, and especially in the Olympics dreams, which were long dead by the time we moved to Maine in 1973. I voted for the Bigelow Act in 1976, and despite the capital "P", the Act states that the Preserve is to be managed for "recreation, wildlife and timber." Since the initial cutting late in fall of 1982, the Bureau of Parks and Lands has harvested over 160,000 cords, much of it from areas in view from those summit pics. Bigelow holds some of the highest quality hardwood timber in New England. A few comments: --The cited 10,540 acres represent the ecological reserve allocated in 2000, which covers the ridgeline down to 1,900' plus mile-plus width extensions to the property lines both north and south, so to include significant area in all ecological communities present. The total area at Bigelow is a bit over 37,000 acres, which started with the purchase from Flagstaff Corp and continued through multiple land trades, usually in exchange for scattered original Public Lots. --The Bigelow Lodge was built mainly to wine and dine prospective investors. The never built ski area lodge would've been larger and with the biggest windows facing the mountain rather than the lake as in the current building. It's now used mainly for training Maine Conservation Corp workers and as a warming hut in winter. --I chuckled a bit at the plans for marinas. Flagstaff is mainly quite shallow as it's an impoundment of the Dead River to store water for Kennebec River hydro at Bingham and Solon. There are very shallow flats, considerable submerged old stumps and varying water levels that make the lake hazardous for high powered boats. That plus the absence of a coldwater fishery pretty much leaves this 4th biggest of Maine lakes to small outboards and paddlecraft, a situation unique among th state's larger lakes.

Gray day - stratus hanging tough.

Least snowy of my 22 winters here with 48.2"- in fact only my 1st full Maine winter (73-74 in BGR) had less since we moved to Maine. 15-16 fights with 05-06 (52.8") for worst winter in the battle of midgets - with the mega-frustrating 09-10 also a competitor. Oddly, 05-06 and 15-16 produced NYC's 2 biggest snowfalls; we got 0.8" in Feb 06 and nada 10 years later. Even so the 06 storm stung a bit more as Gotham had more than 3 times as much as we had for Feb-Mar-Apr combined. It's also rock bottom for SDDs and it's not particularly close.

That's the one, and Hoot Mon is now The Brambles. Also noted The Cliffs is now single diamond - used to be advanced intermediate but with the "s" added to the name I guess it's more difficult.

Already had 2 events of 33-34° RA last month, over 1" precip in each. Why not have another?

Not lower FIS, but left of the Mountain lift (Glen Ellen's name for the long sl-o-o-w lift from the base) as one looks downhill. Most trail names there had a Scotch motif, with names like Black Watch, Inverness and Hoot Mon. Got onto the last by accident (missed the beginner trail turnoff) my first morning of ski week but before the classes were assigned and it was a disaster for someone barely past the snowplow - advanced intermediate with icy moguls and slabby powder in the hollows. I probably fell 20 times and the remaining $80 in Travelers Checks were left behind sometime during the process. However, it worked out okay, as I was initially placed in advanced stem but there too many, so they asked if anyone had been up the Mountain lift that morning and the 2 of us got bumped up to beginning parallel.

I learned parallel at the old Glen Ellen many years ago, on a super cheap January ski week - including gas, meals and lodging I barely cracked $100. A year later I returned as an intermediate skier and chickened out on the summit, taking the long way around rather than Upper FIS. Then I tried the narrow and twisty black diamond just left of the lower liftline and had a great run - conditions were excellent. That told me that the much steeper/much wider FIS was within my reach, but unfortunately we had to head home to NNJ after that run. (And the real scary trail that I'd never had tried was then called Scotch Mist, down the summit liftline - steep as FIS but narrow and with hard objects in the middle.

Those pics reminded me of clearing trails on state land in Gray/New Gloucester a few days after the 1998 ice storm. Not as many trees on the trail but they were bigger ones, sometimes cross-piled or under heavy tension, making the work challenging.

I switched this to the winter 20-21 thread, copying your post from about 30 minutes ago.

Copied 40/70 from the December thread. Oh, okay. Well, my point was that el nino winters are usually more back loaded for SNE than la nina, but the caveat being that that maybe mostly due to February. You may have a case for March temps, however, I am more confident that el nino is better for March snow in SNE than la nina. Obviously its subjetive...I am talking about SNE because I live here and its a NE subforum. Maybe NNE is different, at least for my place starting with 98-99 (SN expressed as percent of average): ENSO Mar. SN n Strong Nino 38% 1 (15-16) Mod. Nino 28% 2 Weak Nino 111% 4 La Nada 74% 7 Weak Nina 166% 4 (March 2001 is my snowiest month here - 55.5") Mod. Nina 108% 4 Strong Nina none yet

Maine was the slight outlier, as shown on the temp anomaly maps. March 2010 didn't get anywhere near 80 - topped out in mid 60s - but never got down lower than 11 and at my place had 28 AN days. 2012 had that incredible 6-day run of 20-28° AN but also was subzero on the 6th and had 11 days with BN temps. 2012 had 50% of average precip and 80% (14.6") of average snowfall. 2010 had 180% of average precip and 3% (0.6") of average snowfall. Maine was different because it was closer to the January retro-bomb that ate our winter.

Maybe. The didn't get much ice on Jan 8-9, 1998.