Yeah, the ice movement early season, with new forming fast. I looked at vis for 28th, and there is ice in the area ice map shows (with what little is visible), so the other issue is, are daily maps for prior day ice? Because its sure starting to seem that way. They would have a full suite of data for the prior day, then they list it as that day when they do their work ups? Ice moves, and forms fast here too. So until it becomes high percentage, hard too tell. And just one open patch can allow for LES. See that here, too. If I would have caught their 30th ice maps, probably would have had that big opening. Something to track day by day to see how that goes, but early ice season is a fast changing season, and a snapshot of a very fluid situation doesn't tell the whole story.