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  1. 1 minute ago, Bob Chill said:

    Hey man, you decided to grab a hammer and drive a bent nail into the board with rain talk. Cherry picking panels and telling others they were going to fail hard. I pointed out why your point didnt make any sense with real analysis but you kept going and so did I and here we are

    So you want to get your point across by rubbing in my face again?

  2. 2 minutes ago, MillvilleWx said:

    Why are you bringing up the beginning of the precip time frame? This is well ahead of the 7H frontogenesis band that WILL develop to the south and move north as the SLP along the coast move NE into your latitude. The lowest boundary layer, which has been hammered ad-nauseum, is the biggest deterrent for the higher end potential for the event. It would've taken a potent s/w (which was modeled by most guidance as early as 24 hrs ago) to overcome that type of setup. It's trended a bit weaker with the s/w and in turn has limited the potential of the event. Also, you live in basically DC. You know your climo. Marginal events don't work super well for you unless you get significant cooling aloft down into the lowest confines of the boundary layer. You don't have elevation on your side either, so you can't take advantage of orographic enhancement that happens all the time with these setups. 

    You're going to get snow tomorrow, but posting the snow depth map (which I know you have some kind of fascination with despite it being ultra conservative 99% of the time), consistently bad mouthing a setup where it'll snow and likely a few moderate to heavy bands at that, and the fact 70% of this forum lives in a better climo than you should cause you to just sit back and take what's given unless you have some meteorological premise to back up all your posts. Persistent pessimism is not only frowned upon, it's extremely debilitating for others on this site trying to learn. You've been here long enough, you should know that. I'm 1900 miles away putting in time and effort to a forecast I'm gonna nothing from, but I want others to learn from what is being shown on guidance and how to forecast. Please, next time, if the setup starts looking bleak for you, move to Banter, or follow along with nothing to say and enjoy whatever snow falls. People want to learn, and this constant back and forth of the same diatribe and handwringing is absolutely a detriment to anyone who wants to learn the fundamentals of meteorology and the process in forecasting. 

    People ignore facts. That's why I do it.

  3. 1 minute ago, Bob Chill said:

    Sure, if dew points were high and evap cooling already took place. Neither of those apply to the cherry picked panels you posted. I get it. You want it to rain. And it might for a little while before the flip. Make sure you set your alarm to catch the rain before it's gone

    I don't want it to rain. I'm just trying to be realistic about what the model shows.

  4. 6 minutes ago, Bob Chill said:

    How come nobody is looking at soundings on the nams? If you did you'd realize that the only temp prob is right at the surface when it counts. It's cold right off the deck on up. Not just a little cold either. Mid levels look great. Column is in good shape. It's usually not when the surface is dicey. Does anybody look at soundings anymore?

    This looks problematic to me.

     

     

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  5. 2 minutes ago, Wetbulbs88 said:

    I'll add that the 12K isn't any better, but it provides better overall guidance IMO. We'll see tomorrow whether we get less than .5 around here or not. 

    I don't want to post it, but the snowfall maps from the two NAM runs on tropicaltidbits are actually quite similar.  There's something way off about Weatherbell snow maps. They're the worst.

  6. 1 minute ago, Wetbulbs88 said:

    Honestly, I tend to read the PBP before heading to TTB myself because I get too much nervous excitement to ruin the drama. But the NAM doesn't look half bad. And the 3k...well I really don't trust it to be honest. For a high res model, I find it to be pretty bad at the QPF side especially when it comes to banding. Not bashing it or anything, but a NAM outcome with dynamic cooling would be an excellent outcome. I'll take a Euro/NAM blend and call it a day. 

    There's never a situation where the 12KM NAM can outscore the 3KM NAM with mesoscale features.

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