Yes but here’s the rub...BW pointed out that we really needed the -EPO all along and was spot on. Look at those indexes...every one of them was in our favor the first month and half of winter and we were mild, hell in fact I can’t remember a winter (exactly since December 1st) when the AO has been solidly negative the entire time! Yet with a positive PNA, -NAO and -NAO we were mild. I guess at this point I’m not putting much stock into the indicies with the exception of the EPO as it seems to be the driver of our cold chances.