Greg

It's funny how people keep showing 21.4" for that January 20th-21st storm when the whole storm total was actually 21.5" based on Boston Coop Data. I guess the 21.4" fell slightly inside of 24 hours with about 0.1" falling less than 20 minutes or so.

I've checked Coop of Brockton, Beechwood, Bridgewater, Plymouth/Kingston area. Haven't see anything go over 4 feet. https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IPS/IPS-176575A0-3AE2-4A95-A3DD-E1286F5DCB0D-wxc3.pdf Station: BOXFORD 2.4 S, MA US US1MAES0012 Observation Time Temperature: Unknown Observation Time Precipitation: Unknown 24 Hour Amounts Ending at Observation Time: Date/Precip/Snowfall/ Depth 2015/02/01 0.00 0.0 21.0 2015/02/02 0.33 6.6 34.5 2015/02/04 0.00 0.0 33.0 2015/02/05 0.13 0.1 30.0 2015/02/06 0.02 0.9 31.0 2015/02/07 0.00 0.0 28.0 2015/02/08 0.33 5.5 31.5 2015/02/09 0.29 5.8 37.0 2015/02/10 0.26 7.8 44.0 2015/02/11 0.00 0.0 42.0 2015/02/12 T T 0.0 40.0 2015/02/13 0.08 1.5 39.0 2015 /02 /4 0.00 0.0 39.0 2015/02/15 0.78 12.0 50.0 2015/02/16 0.02 0.6 50.0 2015/02 /17 0.00 0.0 48.0 2015/02/1 T T 0.0 45.0 2015/02/19 0.06 1.5 45.0 2015/02/20 T 0.1 43.0 2015/02/21 0.00 0.0 42.0 2015/02/22 0.29 2.1 42.0 2015/02/23 T T 0.0 35.0 2015/02/24 0.00 0.0 30.0 2015/02/25 0.04 0.8 30.0 2015/02/26 0.00 0.0 29.5 2015/02/27 T 0.1 29.5 2015/02/28 0.00 0.0 28.5 Summary Precip: 3.06 Total Snowfall: 52.4

IPS-176575A0-3AE2-4A95-A3DD-E1286F5DCB0D-wxc3.pdf (noaa.gov) Quick Data View: GHCND - GHCND:US1MAES0012; 2/1/2015 | Climate Data Online (CDO) | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) (noaa.gov)

I have to disagree with that assessment, especially if spotters used the 6 hour clearing method with many of those storms throughout that intense period. I can prove it with real data who had more snow on the ground. Boxford, MA actually comes in with 48-50" on ground at the highest depth by mid February even Newburyport.at 48".

I don't really know why many people just say south and southwest of Boston got over 100" of snow. The whole Boston area in general was in that years bullseye. The northwest suburbs and Northshore received very similar and even slightly more in a couple of places, especially the immediate Northshore with help of Ocean Effect Snow at times.

Actually, the snow took only a day or two to sublimate. Most of the storms we got that stretch were fluffy and dry. That type of snow is far less dense and usually compacts fairly quickly.

I've seen winters similar to this for quite some time. Nothing is ever really set in stone. It could end up being a ratter in the making or it can end up coming back out of nowhere. Seen it before. It's all about weather pattern recognition.

My overall comment was actually based towards the comment by "Damage In Tolland". Which was, "4”+ is a lock OTG by this time next Sat". Which makes my comment geared towards him correct.

I usually sum it up with measuring technique problems.

Generally speaking, that's what it seems to be at this time.

What did we say about trusting any model over 48 hours out. Never mind 5-10 days out.

I have a feeling based on past forecasts, CAR maybe closer to reality than GYX with this one given the latest storm track.

Not all, but some were. Others reported the total snow depths (old snow on the ground and from the storm) and not just the snowfall. I researched it.

Got about 0.6" from that. 22.8" Winter total so far.

Some of those are because of measuring technique also. People tend to forget that. How much is debatable but noteworthy. Will is correct though, with normal measuring, it's pretty tough to get 30" of snow on the nose. The Northshore since 1870 has seen a few since then as Will stated. A recap: 1898 (February (Lawrence, MA/ Northshore)),1969 (February),1978 (February), 2003 (December), 2005 (January). They are pretty rare/hard to come by. That's why they are usually deemed "Historic" in nature when they do occur.

Public Information Statement Spotter Reports National Weather Service Boston/Norton MA 842 AM EST Mon Jan 04 2021 The following are unofficial observations taken during the past 17 hours for the storm that has been affecting our region. Appreciation is extended to highway departments, cooperative observers, Skywarn spotters and media for these reports. This summary also is available on our home page at weather.gov/boston ********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL******************** LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS SNOWFALL OF /INCHES/ MEASUREMENT CONNECTICUT ...Hartford County... Burlington 3.5 519 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter Collinsville 3.3 752 AM 1/04 General Public Bradley AP 1.7 1200 AM 1/04 CWOP East Farmington Heig 1.5 829 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter ...Tolland County... Staffordville 0.6 555 AM 1/04 Co-Op Observer ...Windham County... Pomfret 1.2 708 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter East Killingly 1.2 509 AM 1/04 NONE Moosup 1.0 632 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter MASSACHUSETTS ...Essex County... Saugus 1.0 952 PM 1/03 Trained Spotter ...Franklin County... Heath 1.3 824 AM 1/04 Ham Radio Greenfield 0.5 902 PM 1/03 Trained Spotter ...Hampden County... Longmeadow 2.0 1138 PM 1/03 Trained Spotter Westfield 1.3 933 PM 1/03 CWO West Springfield 1.0 821 PM 1/03 Ham Radio Agawam 1.0 1037 PM 1/03 Ham Radio ...Hampshire County... Southampton 2.0 619 AM 1/04 Broadcast Media Huntington 2.0 628 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter Goshen 1.5 536 AM 1/04 Broadcast Media Easthampton 1.3 1035 PM 1/03 Ham Radio North Amherst 1.1 817 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter ...Middlesex County... Lexington 2.0 800 AM 1/04 General Public Ashland 1.5 730 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter Hopkinton 1.5 446 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter Carlisle 0.9 536 AM 1/04 General Public Littleton 0.9 615 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter ...Norfolk County... Medway 1.9 919 PM 1/03 Ham Radio Millis 1.2 1030 PM 1/03 Trained Spotter ...Worcester County... Grafton 1.8 1200 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter Westborough 1.7 949 PM 1/03 NWS Employee Milford 1.6 932 PM 1/03 Trained Spotter Leominster 1.5 1200 AM 1/04 Public Boylston 1.3 1041 PM 1/03 Trained Spotter auburn 1.1 758 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter Worcester AP 1.1 1143 PM 1/03 Airport Worcester 1.0 910 PM 1/03 CWO Holden 1.0 841 PM 1/03 Ham Radio Spencer 1.0 815 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter Shrewsbury 0.8 845 PM 1/03 NWS Employee Fitchburg 0.8 754 PM 1/03 Ham Radio Fitchburg Coop 0.8 801 PM 1/03 Co-Op Observer Lunenburg 0.7 832 AM 1/04 Ham Radio RHODE ISLAND ...Kent County... West Warwick 0.7 726 AM 1/04 Trained Spotter ...Providence County... Cumberland 0.5 800 PM 1/03 NWS Employee

Absolutely!

Good storm. 12-16" for the Boston area is a good December northeaster in any book.

Logan AP 12.9 100 PM 12/17 Logan Airport TF Green AP 7.3 100 PM 12/17 T.F. Green Airport Bradley AP 12.3 100 PM 12/17 Bradley Airport

It looks great to me.

That's some heavy stuff. Going to be one hell of a night into the early morning hours.

I will admit, that radar looks quite ominous for Eastern Mass.