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August 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
Don, it looks like Tuesday will be slightly cooler but more humid? Also what are your thoughts on the storm for over the weekend and into early next week? A rare early season coastal? -
I think the EF3 was down in NC, maybe the one that caused those two deaths?
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Don, those 96 and 109 mph gusts you listed for Isaias, were those tornadic winds or straight line winds? I wasn't aware that tornadic winds were listed as max gust reports for TC's. But if we do list tornadic winds, I remember seeing that there was an EF3 tornado reported with Isaias- how fast were the estimated winds with that? Thanks!
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August 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
The 50s decade should be looked at for analogs for this period, if we get another bout of extreme heat towards the end of August. Those years seem to match the last few on multiple levels (late summer heat, busy tropical seasons with multiple east coast hits, peak seasonal snows in March.) -
I heard there were sand drifts up to a foot in parts of Fire Island?! Sounds similar to what happened during Sandy.
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I cant stand the pollution that trucks cause either.
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Thanks, Don! Looks like 90 mph was the highest one from one of our official reporting stations? Interesting that Farmingdale had the peak gust in both Sandy and Isaias.
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August 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
yeah this is nothing like the historic heat of 1993 and 2010. Those heatwaves were unlike anything I've ever seen before. Tony, I see you referenced late August sizzling heat, do you think it could be similar to 1953? We've had a pattern similar to the 50s the last few years, with March being the snowiest month and a high number of TC. Also, I see there were wind gusts of 96 mph (DE) and 109 mph (NJ) reported, were both of these in tornadoes? I wasn't aware that tornadic winds get reported in the same data as regular TC winds. In that case, wouldn't the 125 mph estimate for the EF2 tornado that was reported also get into the same dataset? -
Right! and it makes me wonder what else we have in store for us this season. Provided that the current pattern persists of course (and it's shown itself to be very resilient.)
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August 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
I would've liked to see at least one 100 degree day for all this heat we've had. It just doesn't seem memorable to me unless it hits 100 at the coast at least once. -
Wow I would be too. When you said waste deep in Irene's surge, I thought you were punning to point out that there was "waste" in Irene's surge haha, so a "special" experience, but not the good kind of special? ;-) I remember when people were downplaying Irene because they expected it to be the reincarnation of the 1821 hurricane lol. I stayed up all night to experience the heavy rainfall of that storm (in what had already been a very rainy month after we got 10" in a single day from training storms a week or two before that!) I remember seeing some kind of small shed or other kind of small building break loose during the surge in Long Beach and it banged against the Long Beach bridge (?) I hope I'm remembering this right lol.
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lol I know but I always lose some of the posts when trying to multiquote. I'll try to do it with 2-3 posts rather than 8 or 10 lol. By the way, this storm windwise was the closest that I've experienced to Sandy. I have a feeling this wont be the last one like that we get this year. Comparison to Hazel- obviously Hazel was much stronger but I think the comparison is fair trackwise and because neither lost a lot of strength quickly even though they both went inland.: Hazel made landfall farther south and tracked further to the west, but not by a lot. Based on this map it looks like it was extratropical (but still hurricane strength) at our latitude?
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I saw a 69 mph gust reported for LGA- what happened to that? I dont see it in the new climate report. Do you (or anyone else) think the gusts might have been stronger had the storm taken a further east track (like S-N along eastern parts of NJ vs the NJ/PA border?)
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You didn't put Bertha on this list there were hurricane force gusts up here during that storm. If you want to apply all coastal storms, Dec 1992 ranks higher for me than all the others besides Sandy- three days of 60+ winds and heavy rain!
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IMHO Dec 1992 ranks higher on this list than any storm for me outside of Sandy. Three days of 60+ mph wind gusts with lots of rain and widespread devastation along the coast!
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I like Izzy better than the tongue twisting name they gave it I think the next one on your memorable list will happen this season.....
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There were plenty of 70 mph gusts. And if a location isn't properly "exposed" to the wind, it isn't going to give you accurate wind reporting data, period.
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I dont get surge here so I dont care about surge This storm ranks higher than Irene for me for winds for sure, and just behind Sandy.
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compared to Sandy, 1.4 million power outages in NJ in this storm, compared to 1.7 million power outages in NJ in Sandy, 2nd by a hair! My Long Island home lost power for 25 hours in Sandy around 6 PM as it was making landfall near ACY, but thank goodness no power loss this time! Can you do a comparison of max wind gusts for this storm vs Sandy, Don? For JFK, FRG, etc.?
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Might happen as soon as two weeks from now. Might challenge the 1954 record of three TC's affecting us. Speaking of 1954, this storm seems like a weaker version of Hazel to me. Hazel was the only hurricane I can think of that maintained hurricane status on an inland track (all the way to Toronto!) Had this storm been a major at landfall it may have done the same (it was 70 mph all the way to the Poconos as it was.)
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Yes Klotzbach has predicted 10 more hurricanes
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The Battery also reported a gust to 78 mph
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yeah a 3ft surge wouldn't be something we want to see. is high tide around 8 PM tomorrow night on the south shore?
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tornadoes are so rare, the chances of seeing one are literally a million to one. The second option would be more exciting if it was raining the entire time it was windy.
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