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yes it was damn hot today! was that the high? of course this doesnt come close to matching the 95 from a few years ago or the 90 in 10/07 when was the latest JFK has ever hit 80?

there are parts of Florida cooler than we are

I mean not that because I hate tornadoes, but something like Belle which didn't really cause much damage at all.

I really wish we could get a Cat 1 every year around this time, is that asking too much? I want to see a Cat 1 make landfall in our area (ACY to MTP) once every year, that's not too destructive and they are fun to track. When will the waters warm enough to make that happen?

Don looks like it will warm back up to upper 70s midweek next week and beyond?

My dad really wanted to see the northern lights but never got to see them. The year he passed away in 2014 he would wake up in the middle of the night and thought he saw them outside the window and he would call me to ask me to get up and see them too. I didn't know what to say when I couldn't see them, so I would just tell him, "I see them too, Dad, I can see them too."

So when people say, a place like say, Kansas City, got to see the northern lights, that's not too impressive when it comes to what we might be able to see at our latitude. I don't even remember the last time the northern lights were easily visible down here.

Remember when we talked about how early cold can have bad implications for the winter? Like snow and cold in November, etc, it takes a long time for the pattern to recover and by that time you've lost December, which you really need to have go your way in a winter of this type

let's get the short term right first lol- why is it overcast today? It was supposed to be sunny and warm

nice I hope it's better and warmer than the yucky cloudy clammy weather we have right now

Oh so that's why they are better visible over there vs the east coast. I thought it was because of lower light pollution there. Is geomagnetic latitude measured from the north magnetic pole?

https://twitter.com/i/events/1448313424887361549 Leprosy in chimps! This is SICK! Why is there no vaccine for this?

Look for Witches of Karres which was a very sweet and funny tale from back then as well as the sequels to it which were very nicely done over the past few years. That was one of the old stories I always wanted to see a sequel to and I was glad to see that it was done by a fine collaboration of writers who kept the spirit of the original storyline alive and even expanded it in a way the original author would have wanted to.

Yes I have some of those! When Worlds Collide and After Worlds Collide in one set! Imagine my delight at finding out that rogue planets are a real thing and there are planets actually wandering through interstellar and even intergalactic space, having been ejected by their parent sun, just waiting to find a hospitable solar system to live in once again and to see the warmth of a new sun.

That actually reminds me of a concept of how humanity can go from being the masters of technology to technology becoming their masters. They wake up one day and realize they aren't the ones in control anymore.

rclab I know what's going to happen, I already see it happening. The rich among us are going to go to space and establish colonies there. Eventually when the prices get cheaper some among the upper middle class will be able to follow them. The planet will honestly be fine, there is no "saving the planet" because the planet doesn't need to be saved- it's humanity that needs to be saved. What will happen is that the poor and the lower middle class will be stuck on this planet as it becomes ever more inhospitable to human life Humans will survive but at a much lower standard of living and crowded onto smaller pieces of land as sea level rises and forests burn and what's not burning is being plagued with floods. New pandemics will occur more frequently and famine will be regular, even in the developed world as a mass extinction accelerates. Eventually the only wildlife that exists on this planet will be a remnant human population, the animals we farm and some pests that are highly resistant to destruction. The earth will be one large highly polluted dump which humanity will eventually give up on and those who can will leave, while the leaving is good. Eventually, after a huge population crash (from famine, disease, starvation, etc.), humanity will return back to preindustrial levels on the planet, farming and working the land like indigenous people do, in a sustainable way. The other segment of humanity will be colonizing the solar system and wandering into interstellar space- a confirmation of HG Wells' The Time Machine, story of two humanities, the ultra rich and everyone else. Those who live amongst the stars and those who still exist on this planet.

I love those stories from the Golden Age, I actually have collections of them somewhere in my house if I can find them. The classics never age, because humanity's hopes, dreams, motivations and desires never really do either.

Got a couple of papers for you to read. The one is on superhabitable planets, planets better suited for life as we know it than Earth is. Interestingly, they are basing this on when Earth was a tropical rain forest paradise and are looking for planets warmer, wetter and larger than earth and with denser atmospheres with more oxygen. https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/ast.2019.2161 Second paper by the same group is about the likelihood of finding complex animal life on other worlds and the likelihood of finding technological life. https://www.mdpi.com/2075-1729/6/3/25/htm

Did any of you guys see that surprise northern lights display the other night? I was shocked that it looked so good in Cleveland but no pictures coming out of the NE. And it was only mentioned by the media after the fact.

Pacific systems dont get much attention in these parts, this is the first time I've seen such a system get attention here. Looks like the Atlantic is shut down for business? I'm shocked that the GOM has been so quiet, it's usually good for a late season event or two.

how many seasons with snowfall of 50 inches or more?

hey at least we dont have to turn the heat on

Some similarities to 2012-13 here?

Societal inertia is as much of a bitch as physical inertia! To your point about there not being enough time to be able to turn the tanker around, these slow motion disasters are of the worst kind. Going through the entirety of Asimov's sci fi the first book in the chronological history, Pebble in the Sky actually chronicled such a slow moving disaster and Asimov's solution to motivating humanity into action was to actually create another disaster, but one which was much more obvious and much faster moving. Creating this second disaster motivated humanity to make the necessary changes to save the planet. Machiavellian indeed! By the way it wasn't humans who figured out the solution to stopping a slow moving disaster was to create a much more obvious fast moving disaster to motivate humanity in order to save the planet.....it was intelligent humanoid robots. AI, gets you every time lol

Hey if it works! Brilliant! use Greed to solve Greed's problem. Now that's an interesting paradox for Theologians; is a sin a sin when the action diminishes the quality of the sin unto its self? Maybe that realization is the evidence of our current evolutionary turn? Kind of like the Showtime program "Dexter" - sending in a socio-psychopath to to essentially take out serial killers...? Or, maybe "two wrongs don't make a right" ...and "The only winning move is, not to play." It does in math though ... ( - ) * ( - ) = ( + ) ... interestingly corny little joke. Sometimes we may need to be a bit Machiavellian! I ran across something you might want to look into, a large deposit of soot was found in Antarctica and it was dated back to around 1300. It seems as though the Maoris did large scale burnings of the forests in New Zealand when they got there around that time and that was when this soot was deposited, so it certainly looks like we were wrecking the planet well before the Industrial Revolution! Also, we were talking about black holes and infinite density and such. I invite you to look at the Penrose diagrams of Kerr (spinning) black holes, which most of them are. It's very interesting - there are two event horizons and two cauchy horizons and the spinning nature of these black holes makes their singularities ring shaped not points, therefore there is a way to navigate them without being shredded apart and the inner part of them is like the eye of a hurricane, it is not infinitely dense there and may in fact be traversable (a wormhole), you have to pass through four horizons and then you make it out through the last one into the interior of another universe (or a different part of the same universe.) The interesting thing is the same research shows that the entire history of the new universe is basically recorded on the inside of this boundary (very similar to the boundary of our own universe)- which is a big indication to me that our own universe is inside a black hole inside a larger universe (and the outside of the boundary of the black hole would in turn record the entire history of this superverse.)