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if it just sticks to roofs and cars does that count as more than a T? whatever was there when I woke up was gone shortly thereafter anyway

Yeah I woke up to seeing a coating on roofs and cars, but I woke up at 7:40 and the actual falling flakes were out of the area by then. Why did this move out so quickly? There were more flakes around 9 am but not enough to stick. What I saw on the roofs and cars was already gone 30 minutes after I woke up. Aint no way I was going to wake up at 6 am for ANY reason-- not even to see snow. Thats why I want it to snow during the day, when it can actually be seen.

Light dusting here too, I just saw it when I woke up on rooftops and cartops, why did this melt so quickly? It was gone in 30 minutes lol and then we had a few more flurries around 9 am but that's it. Mine was just a light dusting, this looks better https://twitter.com/falf0x/status/1464980746804809733

Air pollution around the world- didn't know that air pollution also increases rates of Diabetes type 2, in addition to asthma. It killed 2 million people in India in 2019 The 100 most polluted cities in the world / Twitter

NOVA from this week-- I found it really interesting because they discussed the possibility/probability based on recent evidence that the structure of the universe was actually "decided" before the Big Bang. Now that's some truly mindblowing stuff right there. So basically there was this primordial soup of particles (on the quantum scale) and they interacted with each other in certain ways, creating entangled networks (curiously the same title of the intelligent fungi article) and before the Big Bang happened, this network was already hardwired into place because the universe emerged from this cosmic soup. The implication is that other bubble universes could also emerge in the same way. And this also explains why we see fully formed galaxies so soon (200 million years) after the Big Bang. Whether it was a Big Bang or Big Bounce, the implications of a cosmic network hardwired from outside or before the universe are huge.

It's like a magical repeating symphony on various different scales that creates the splendid orchestra of nature.

I remember seeing similar networks for slime molds that resemble human architecture. Human ingenuity is a fractal representation of what nature has already done. Maybe because of this..... https://nautil.us/issue/50/emergence/the-strange-similarity-of-neuron-and-galaxy-networks

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/aug/27/entangled-life-by-merlin-sheldrake-review-a-brilliant-door-opener-book When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the universe.” So said the nature writer John Muir. His statement is spectacularly true of fungi. Mostly, they come to our notice as mushrooms, moulds, wood-rot, infections and antibiotics but, invisibly, they are inside us and all around us. https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n10/francis-gooding/from-its-myriad-tips https://paulstamets.com/mycological-strategies https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/160221-plant-science-botany-evolution-mabey-ngbooktalk There Is Such a Thing as Plant Intelligence Plants are capable of solving problems and learning from past experiences. BYSIMON WORRALL https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-poetic-mind-bending-tour-of-the-fungal-world/#

wow that reminds me of Cosmos- when the interconnected intelligence of the network of fungi and trees was being mentioned (mycology) https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/entangled-life-book-review-mushrooms-fungi-biology-science The magic of mushrooms forces us to rethink what intelligence means The astonishing secrets of fungal life raise profound questions

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/05/20/climate-change-and-the-new-age-of-extinction

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/biodiversitys-greatest-protectors-need-protection/ In the late 19th century Yellowstone, Sequoia and Yosemite became the first of the great U.S. National Parks, described by author and historian Wallace Stegner as America's “best idea.” But the parks were devastating for the Native Americans who had lived or hunted within their borders and who were expelled—essentially an act of colonialism in the name of conservation. In the 20th century similar reserves began to be carved out in developing countries, creating millions of “conservation refugees” even as neighboring forests were given over to extractive industries. The protected areas failed to offset the destructive aspects of development. Plant and animal species are disappearing faster than at any time since the event that wiped out most of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. Even humans aren't guaranteed to survive. The U.S. has taken one small step to make amends. In June, Secretary of the Interior Debra Haaland, the first Native American ever to hold a cabinet position, signaled her intent to safeguard both nature and justice by returning the National Bison Range to the Salish and Kootenai confederation. Now the Biden administration needs to go further. At the 2021 meeting of the United Nations Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD), it should ensure that an ambitious plan to promote biodiversity empowers Indigenous and other communities worldwide instead of punishing them for their success in conservation. In 2016 biologist Edward O. Wilson responded to the biodiversity crisis by calling for half of Earth to be left to wilderness. His rallying cry has birthed the “30x30” campaign to protect 30 percent of Earth's land and sea surface by 2030. Backed by many scientists, major conservation organizations, the more than 60 member countries of the High Ambition Coalition for Nature and People, and $1 billion from a Swiss entrepreneur, the target is likely to be adopted by the CBD when it meets in October. But critics charge that some advocates of 30x30 seek “a new model of colonialism” that forces those least responsible for climate change, biodiversity loss and other environmental crises to pay the highest price for averting them. 30x30 could be used by elites in democratically challenged nation-states as a pretext for seizing land from marginalized groups. The home ranges of Indigenous peoples currently shelter 80 percent of Earth's remaining biodiversity and sequester almost 300 trillion tons of carbon. Precisely because of this abundance, these areas are likely to be some of the first places targeted for “protection.” If that happens, the very people who defend nature from the voracious appetites of the Global North, often at the cost of their lives, would be penalized for their efforts. Up to 300 million forest dwellers and others could be forced out of their territories, by one estimate. Such seizures are already happening. In the Congo Basin, for example, armed eco-guards have brutally evicted Indigenous Pygmies from the rain forest to carve out protected areas. These wildlife reserves expanded following a CBD resolution in 2010 to dedicate 17 percent of Earth's terrestrial surface to nature. Yet the protected areas are surrounded by or sometimes even overlaid with oil, mining or logging concessions. Unsurprisingly, chimpanzee, gorilla and elephant populations have continued to decline even as Pygmy peoples have been consigned to poverty and misery. There is a way to do global conservation right. Indigenous communities are as good as or better than governments at protecting biodiversity and already conserve a quarter of Earth's terrestrial surface. The CBD needs to ensure that they get secure rights to their territories, as well as the resources to defend them. Further, the signatories to the CBD should commit to returning some protected areas, which now cover around 17 percent of the planet's lands, to the control of the communities from which they were wrested. The U.S. could lead the way in this effort. The Biden administration's vision for 30x30, released in May 2021, includes a pledge to support local populations, in particular Tribal administrations, in conserving and restoring biodiversity. The U.S. needs to take that resolve to the global stage at the U.N. meeting and help rescue nature and its most ardent defenders from the militarized conservation model it pioneered one and a half centuries ago. That is a crucial step toward a reprieve for the incredible life-forms that share our planet, as well as their Indigenous guardians.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/redo-of-a-famous-experiment-on-the-origins-of-life-reveals-critical-detail-missed-for-decades/ ^also very interesting, the role of silica rocks in life starting on Earth They found that teflon produced very few organic compounds. There were more compounds in the teflon with glass pieces. But the glass container, by far, created the greatest number and largest variety of organic molecules. The mechanism of exactly how the silica helps catalyze the reaction is not clear yet--but it is very clearly does. The obvious question then is: Was there silica available in the early earth environment? Saladino: The water is not suspended in a vacuum. No? The water is in geochemistry, it is surrounded by minerals. Borosilicate and silica are the most abundant minerals surrounding the water. Vitak: The team has two next major objectives in mind. First, to try updating the experiment to model more closely the amount of silica that would have been available in the early Earth. Second, they want to try replacing the silica with extraterrestrial minerals like, pieces of meteorite or rocks from other planets. Apart from just being very cool, that could give a more concrete idea of how to look for life in space. But here on Earth, coming one step closer to fully understanding why we exist is that much more satisfying. Even after nearly 70 years, a key discovery in our complex origin story still carries new revelations. As the authors say in the paper: "The role of the rocks was hidden in the walls of the reactors."

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/scientists-have-been-underestimating-the-pace-of-climate-change/

Yes a paradigm of connectedness is very important-- between all species-- if one is in peril, we're all in peril because we're all part of the vast web of life and one weak strand will eventually make the whole thing unravel. Reading that New Yorker article I also became aware of a number of giant renewable energy projects that are harming local ecosystems in third world nations, we need to not fall into the trap of past mistakes and do it in a way that makes a minimal impact to the local environment and doesn't contribute to the mass extinction event now underway. This was part of the problem with the so-called "Green" revolution, they started using chemicals harmful to the environment, that kill pollinators, cause harmful side effects to humans (especially children) and eventually destroyed the soil. It's why we're now seeing a resurgence of organic farming, which is much more sustainable.

I mean if we existed like indigenous people live (or rather used to live), at one with nature and the planet, we would all be a lot better off. They appreciated not overhunting, not overfishing, not overlogging, all the things that modern society has abused to the point of no return.

Thats why I am so adamantly opposed to the so-called "green" revolution (it wasn't green, it destroyed the environment with chemicals that didn't belong there)....we're just now starting to learn of the damage caused by industrial agriculture and farmers in the third world are finally turning back to more sustainable organic farming. The problem all along was that new technology was only going to temporarily treat a symptom (like a pain killer only treats the pain) the disease all along was that there are simply too many humans on the planet.

Soil and water depletion, overuse of pesticides, the devastation of world fisheries—collective will is needed for these problems, too, and, unlike the problem of carbon, they’re within our power to solve. As a bonus, many low-tech conservation actions (restoring forests, preserving grasslands, eating less meat) can reduce our carbon footprint as effectively as massive industrial changes. In Santa Cruz, where I live, there’s an organization called the Homeless Garden Project. On a small working farm at the west end of town, it offers employment, training, support, and a sense of community to members of the city’s homeless population. It can’t “solve” the problem of homelessness, but it’s been changing lives, one at a time, for nearly thirty years. Supporting itself in part by selling organic produce, it contributes more broadly to a revolution in how we think about people in need, the land we depend on, and the natural world around us. In the summer, as a member of its C.S.A. program, I enjoy its kale and strawberries, and in the fall, because the soil is alive and uncontaminated, small migratory birds find sustenance in its furrows. There may come a time, sooner than any of us likes to think, when the systems of industrial agriculture and global trade break down and homeless people outnumber people with homes. At that point, traditional local farming and strong communities will no longer just be liberal buzzwords. Kindness to neighbors and respect for the land—nurturing healthy soil, wisely managing water, caring for pollinators—will be essential in a crisis and in whatever society survives it. A project like the Homeless Garden offers me the hope that the future, while undoubtedly worse than the present, might also, in some ways, be better. Most of all, though, it gives me hope for today. Thats from that article I linked to earlier, it's excellent for a broader perspective on changing humanity on a fundamental level to achieve sustainability.

It can be used for some very positive things, but I'm also thinking how it was used to drive so many species to extinction even before the industrial revolution (like spears being used on Wooly Mammoths and the destruction of forests with intentionally set fires going back 800 years); the ultimate goal in addition to more sustainable technology should be a more sustainable mindset for humanity to not abuse what the planet offers.

I've always wanted that....if there was a way to communicate all across the universe....get out of that damned light speed barrier problem (maybe with wormholes or sterile neutrinos, which are supposed to be able to travel "outside" the universe)....see how different sentient civilizations handled it and who made it past the Great Filter and who didn't and how many there are in the average galaxy (my amateur guess would be less than a handful per galaxy, and that would mean more than 99% failed and either went extinct or were reduced to a pre-technology state.) And the other thing I've always wondered about is if a technological species does go extinct what are the chances that millions of years later a different one develops on the same planet? Maybe even finds the relics of the one that came before them? Millions of years after us, what would be there to find of us if we went extinct, by the next technological species that may eventually evolve?

There's a saying I have had for years now Chris, and I am going to use it here again, because I think it's appropriate. "Evolution has a beautiful irony, and it's a tragic conundrum, that evolution eventually leads to the destruction of the evolving species." It can be taken in many ways-- one is that as it evolves the original species is replaced by one that is more successful, which in our case has led to a point of where we have become TOO successful (which I do agree with in the article.) But the statement can also be read in another way, like with the dinosaurs (which were going to go extinct with or without the K-T event) and that is that when evolution reaches a certain point, it becomes a dead end for the evolving species (for a variety of different reasons)....and this can apply to different kinds of evolution....biological evolution, societal evolution, and of course technological evolution. At some point we reach the point of diminishing returns whereby evolution actually seals the fate of whatever it is that's evolving.

Here's another article to read (I just posted the first paragraph, read the rest there, it's a long one.) https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/what-if-we-stopped-pretending What If We Stopped Pretending? The climate apocalypse is coming. To prepare for it, we need to admit that we can’t prevent it. By Jonathan Franzen September 8, 2019 Illustration by Leonardo Santamaria “There is infinite hope,” Kafka tells us, “only not for us.” This is a fittingly mystical epigram from a writer whose characters strive for ostensibly reachable goals and, tragically or amusingly, never manage to get any closer to them. But it seems to me, in our rapidly darkening world, that the converse of Kafka’s quip is equally true: There is no hope, except for us. I’m talking, of course, about climate change. The struggle to rein in global carbon emissions and keep the planet from melting down has the feel of Kafka’s fiction. The goal has been clear for thirty years, and despite earnest efforts we’ve made essentially no progress toward reaching it. Today, the scientific evidence verges on irrefutable. If you’re younger than sixty, you have a good chance of witnessing the radical destabilization of life on earth—massive crop failures, apocalyptic fires, imploding economies, epic flooding, hundreds of millions of refugees fleeing regions made uninhabitable by extreme heat or permanent drought. If you’re under thirty, you’re all but guaranteed to witness it. If you care about the planet, and about the people and animals who live on it, there are two ways to think about this. You can keep on hoping that catastrophe is preventable, and feel ever more frustrated or enraged by the world’s inaction. Or you can accept that disaster is coming, and begin to rethink what it means to have hope.

Actually the first species we drove to extinction happened way before climate change occurred, it was when we developed tools like spears and drove the Wooly Mammoth to extinction. There were many others we did the same too before we ever started using fossil fuels....so again the problem with human society goes far deeper than fossil fuels and all that has to change for us to be a sustainable species.

When it comes to living organisms changing Earth, humans are not fundamentally different or special. This has happened before. Not with the type of artificial technology or lab created chemicals before or the concerted conscious effort to upend the existing sustainable system by creating a new unsustainable one that destroys biodiversity (one which will trigger the planet's self-regulation tipping point- and it won't be pretty for humanity when it happens, actually it's happening already.) This is about a lot more than just climate change, it's about the fundamental wasteful ways in which humanity exists in modern societies.

Also worth noting that in the planet's history, whenever a species becomes too dominant, it eventually gets beaten down.... the planet has a tipping point, and when it gets tipped, the planet will self-regulate against the dominator....to bring back biodiversity. This is precisely why we should be working with Nature (biomimicry) rather than against it.

Yes, we can make a distinction between humanity (which I refer to as technological civilizations) vs individual human beings. Individuals humans can and have been sustainable in the past, it's just at this point in time we currently live in an unsustainable system.