LibertyBell

But who wants to watch a game on their phone? It makes no sense.

We've had that here..... in 2003-04 we had a snowstorm where the temps were in the single digits and the winds were blowing like 30 mph. In January 1996 the blizzard started with temps in the single digits also. I'm trying to remember our lowest wind chills, but the way they were calculated changed back in the 90s I think. Before that we'd regularly get wind chills down to -60 with the old calculation method lol. With the new method, I think -30 to -35 is the coldest wind chill we've had.

Thursday-Friday? It's going to be below freezing from Monday through Sunday next week (at least according to News 12).

If I remember correctly, the record coldest temp ever recorded in the CONUS is actually -70, from West Yellowstone?

extreme temps are absolutely awesome, some of the most interesting of all weather changes. Rapid City and Spearfish can have rise or drop 100 degrees in a few hours lol

With that said, we are going to be below freezing for highs for 7 consecutive days, that's pretty impressive

and then we have the late next week storm to look forward to

When was the last time anywhere in the CONUS got to -60?

Good thing is, we might get to double digit snowfall before that happens, a full 7 days with highs every day below freezing here.

Yep, we have seen big winters before, even with a -PDO. It's not about trying to obtain perfection, but just trying to get to average snowfall for the season.

I'll never forget how enthusiastic he was about January 2016 (although it didn't affect his area nearly as much as it affected us down here), but he called that storm moving north to give NYC an HECS and that's exactly what happened.

The polar bear swimmers must have had a fun time in 2004 lol. That entire month was frigid!

Wow that's interesting that both Arctic outbreaks were in the middle of February! One feature of our modified climate is how February has warmed up more than January has and our coldest temperatures have moved from February into January (and likely most snowfall also.)

I like the cold February idea too, but let's wait until the last week of January to look at these.

Those -7s and -8s from EWR and PHL in the 80s are absolutely amazing and show how truly cold the 80s really were, regardless of whether it snowed or not-- especially the month of January! The reason I wondered about the Poughkeepsie to NYC relationship is that isn't our coldest air usually coming from the north (draining down the Hudson Valley) and isn't Poughkeepsie just about due north of NYC? So you'd think if Poughkeepsie was historically cold, NYC would be too? It is amazing that Newark was -8 in 1985 and NYC "only": got down to -2. That was the last time JFK went below zero too. So JFK's streak has lasted even longer than NYC's (and JFK radiates much better than NYC does which makes that odd.) That -7 at Newark in 1982 is also absolutely wild-- NYC only got down to 0 that winter. Of course the April blizzard was very memorable, so the cold that season was amazing too. Philly got to -7 in 1984? I know that was a cold winter, but I don't recall at 0 degree temps in NYC that winter.

and when the warm weather is here you yearn for cold weather? make up your mind will you!

it's notable that it hasn't gotten lower than -2 since 1943 lol, do you think that will ever happen again? That -8 in 1943 really stands out like a sore thumb, I know we all see maps of the -15 from February 1934 but what kind of pattern caused that -8 in 1943? I know we had some very cold winters both during WW1 and WW2..... PS I noticed something Chris..... in 1994 Poughkeepsie got down to -20, but "only" to -15 in 1943..... while NYC got down to -8 in 1943 but "only" -2 in 1994.... is the difference because of UHI..... in other words, should 1994 have gotten colder than 1943 were it not for UHI, like it did in Poughkeepsie?

Was this the one with the whiteout conditions during the day? That looked like a true blizzard-- I didn't realize that it got all the way down to 950mb, I thought it was around 970mb.

Wow I actually know people in the Red Deer and Medicine Hat and Brooks area, they are definitely not used to this kind of cold there.

This is truly scary-- we've been focusing on an ice free arctic (and rightly so) but we've been ignoring the other big danger, which is a perennial tropical "season" that never ends....

Right, this needed change should have began in the 80s instead of now. I take harsher look at developing nations, I believe they should not be allowed to cause pollution just because we already did it-- there should be harsh economic penalties for any nation that continues to emit to the point where using fossil fuels becomes an economic nonstarter (this would be much easier if we had a strong world government which could punish even powerful nations like the US and China for the amount of pollution they cause, but that's a pipedream right now.)

Thanks, so is it your estimate that we'll peak around +2.0C and not get to +2.5C (maybe we'll peak between +2.2C and +2.3C?) I wonder how much of a lag effect there is between emissions peak and global temperate peak?

I will once again say that none of those arctic outbreaks were really that interesting because 90% of the time when you have such an outbreak, the pattern is suppressed and all you get is dry and cold.

Yes, I think Christmas 1980 was one of those days ! I can't even think of us ever reaching zero in December anymore! And how did we ever get to zero on Valentine's Day in 2016 in such a mild winter?

wow I wish we had some sort of realistic simulation that would show us what the 1938 hurricane was like in our local neighborhoods.