LibertyBell

Wow thanks Chris-- and did May 9th in both 1977 and 2020 record a T of snow in both Central Park and JFK?

People don't have to do anything though. There's a few simple things that are already happening. More people driving electric vehicles (which will be the only vehicles produced by 2035). This will curb air pollution and asthma. Even airlines are now starting to work with green fuels (biofuels). The plastics treaty which will end plastic trash by converting to plant based plastics (which will stop the health impacts of plastics causing organ damage.) And net zero by 2050 means there won't be any more of an impact of CO2 than what we already have because whatever carbon pollution we cause will be balanced out with the much higher usage of renewables.

There's also the case of modern medicines. But we can also question if longevity better health and I'm not sure it does. Asthma and air pollution are much higher than they were before the industrial revolution and air pollution is listed as the number one shortener of life ahead of tobacco smoking.

I enjoy it more than looking at the craters on the moon because the craters don't move! It's fun discovering new sunspots too, the sun is full of surprises my friend!

Thanks, Don. Did that date and May 9, 2020 both have a trace of snow at JFK? Also, what was the recorded low at JFK in 1977-- was that their latest temperature of 32 or lower? Weird to see it repeat on exactly the same date, but that seems to happen quite often!

I read about May 1977 when the Catskills were buried in over a foot of snow. I was in the Poconos in May 1977 and got to see it snow all day, which was pretty amazing.

Greenskeeper needs to be dissolved in a vat of oil. Why are illiterate backwards thinking fools even allowed to log on here?

These corrupt cartels are even going after lawyers and countries who sue them for damages and they bribe judges to help them. Lewis Kaplan needs to be called out as one of these corrupt judges who takes bribes from the fossil fuel cartels (and who used to work for them). He hired private lawyers to prosecute Steven Donziger who won a 10 billion dollar lawsuit against Chevron because of massive waterway pollution in Ecuador. Chevron even got a witness to commit perjury and paid this witness 2 million dollars and have not paid one cent of the settlement. Big corporations in various industries are now using similar methods to avoid paying lawsuits.

Thanks Tony, and a Trace of snow on the 9th? That high of 49 on May 9th with sunshine (most of the time) is pretty crazy too. Is that an all time low for the month of May for JFK?

Instead the -NAO are happening in April and May lol. I didn't know how much fun watching sunspots could be. The trio of sunspots I photographed near the "top" of the sun have now moved to the middle of the sun. They moved this much in just a week or 10 days.

I jumped ship in 2002 lol

it carried into the spring and summer too, what an absolutely awesome summer that was!

34 wow, so close to freezing! Offhand, do you know the latest it's gotten to 32 degrees since 1974 (so over the last 50 years?) I know the 34 was on May 9th in 2020, what date did that 36 in 2021 occur on? Thanks! EDIT I CHECKED TONY'S POST AND IT WAS 36 ON THIS DATE IN 2021-- SO THIS MUST BE THE DAY! CHRIS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LOW WAS IN MAY 2020 at JFK, when Central Park's low was 34? They both received a T of snow, right? There was no measurable snow in our local area?

It's pretty rare to get below 40 degrees after 4/20, it's only happened a handful of times in my memory (and most of those were actually in early May like 2020, 1992, etc, and of course there was 1977.) 1983 stands out with a snowstorm on 4/20.

I don't understand why more people aren't honest about it being a climate emergency. When your house is burning do you debate about your next steps or do you take immediate action to stop the fire?

I like to say that the factors which cause evolution eventually result in the destruction of the evolving species.

No but it's an argument that is increasingly being used (in various political circles too). I would say that two wrongs create an even greater and self perpetuating wrong. Whether we're talking about colonialism or climate change.

In a way I feel like it's hardwired into nature. Think of it like this, for various reasons nature abhors domination by a single species or genus. Think of what happened in prior mass extinction events and what species went extinct. Like the dinosaurs for example. It really seems like there is a tipping point that gets triggered once a species becomes too dominant and nature has created this back channel to ensure its destruction when that happens. When you think of the planet as a living breathing superorganism that self-regulates, you can see why it would want to eliminate species that become so dominant that they completely take over the biome.

This is why I don't understand why it's so difficult for people to see that we are ALL part of the environment, so whatever we do to it, we are actually doing that to ourselves. There is a price to pay for convenience, and we are now paying it. We're mortgaging our future for what we have right now.

It really is an inflection point in history as you know well, John. Little differences can have major long term consequences. I'm wondering what kind of a world we'll be living in in 2050. Hopefully we are still around by then (I for one want to see that eclipse in 2045.) History seems to repeat itself even if we remember it-- this seems so much like the 60s.

They're also airing commercials now to try and make plastics seem recyclable.

I notice the media likes to marginalize climate change protests by talking about "young people at the protests" Today, on the Sunday talk shows they did a segment on Earth Day and what they said is that politicians don't believe that anyone besides the very young care about climate change. According to polling it ranked at the very bottom of issues that voters care about-- it was at around 2%. If it was framed as a healthcare and national security issue as it should be, maybe that would be different.

Yep, I think we are headed here too. The billionaires are already lining up

https://longisland.news12.com/2016-whistleblower-tip-warned-of-barrels-buried-at-old-grumman-property-in-bethpage Northrup Grumman being Northup Grumman-- yet another case of not doing the right thing when destroying the environment by helping to clean it up. At least 16 chemical drums were found underneath the old Northrop Grumman property in Bethpage Community Park. However, state officials were tipped off to buried drums nearly a decade ago, raising questions about why the drums are just now being discovered. The former ballfield area in the park used to be an old dumping ground for the Grumman property. It was also the center of a whistleblower report in 2016. A tipster said he remembered that large drums were discovered at the park in the early 1990’s during excavation work and subsequently reburied. He pointed officials to an area near the skate park and ballfield. “He thought upwards of 20 to 25 drums,” said Michael Boufis, superintendent of the Bethpage Water District. “It was outside the skate park, that’s where he remembers those drums being. Give or take 20 to 30 feet from where they are finding them now, so he was pretty close.” Team 12 Investigates obtained the results of the New York Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) investigation into that 2016 tip. The DEC deemed the tip unfounded.

Don, the problem I have with scientists is why aren't they on the frontlines? Why is the burden on young people to go out and protest and boycott? Scientists should be walking out of their jobs and out in the streets protesting with them if they believe so strongly about climate change. Merely publishing papers isn't good enough anymore, if it's that much an emergency, they need to make sacrifices too. Maybe if enough scientists quit work the politicians would have to listen.