LibertyBell

it must have been a lot of fun lol

yes less snowy and less cold than those historic seasons, because we're in a drier cycle now and less snowy too. But probably better than any other season in this miserable decade.

Yes because this isn't 1955-56 or 1966-67 lol

you were clearly having a waking dream

we can separate hottest summers (number of 90 degree days) vs greatest positive deviations from the mean (highest averages). A fine distinction, but it is one.

a lesser version of 1993-94, Ray?

Space X capsule just landed with the astronauts who were stuck on the space station for 9 months!!

He's probably just joking around.

The higher minimums contaminate that record, we measure heat by number of hot days (highs of 90 or higher.) Thus excessively wet summers get an artificial boost as does increased urbanization.

Yeah this is why I'm also against countries in the Global South and other developing countries be allowed to *catch up*-- this is a global climate emergency and nature doesn't give a shit about politics or income level or region of the world.

it's almost like you're begging to be weenie'd lol

Thanks, it was a lot more exciting than either of the last two Marches (multiple extremes lol), or any March of this decade for that matter. Getting snow and 85 degrees in the same month is absolute weather perfection ! It cooled down after the 17th didn't it? I remember that-- and we had half an inch of snow in the first week of April that year.

Yes they've been experimenting in the New Mexico desert. Wait, you want to partner with them? There are several governments looking to join in, likely by 2030.

For it to be without precedence there would have to be at least 3 days with a high of 80 or higher.

But no 80 degree highs? March 1990 must have started out very cold, because that heatwave in the second week was truly historic.

It's not cooler, it only feels cooler. I look at that the same way I look at wind chill. Actually it didn't feel cooler, back in March 1990 everyone was wearing Bermuda shorts lol. I just don't find much usefulness in *average* temperatures.

Wait, last March was #1 warmest through the first 15 days? How's this possible-- it didn't even hit 80 in March. The first 15 days of March 1990 must have been quite a bit warmer?

Yes, and it's been so wet in previous years that we've had a tough time heating up in the summer. Maybe more westerlies will help? It's interesting Islip vs JFK, Islip is further east but also more inland. But JFK is usually warmer than Islip unless the wind is due south.

It wouldn't really be a problem if we could get more concentrated snowfall in DJF or even just JF. If we could get 15-20 inches of snow in JF (each month, not total), then I think most would be happy.

Yes March in the 80s-early 90s was very nice. Especially 1990.

I noticed strong la ninas used to be much colder and snowier back then, 1916-17 and 1955-56 were much colder and snowier than 1973-74 or 1988-89, although we had colder snowier strong la ninas again with 2010-11 and 2017-18.

Did they move it because it had a warm bias?

Wow I thought it was like New York City, where both JFK and LGA (not to mention EWR) as well as Central Park do all those things. Is there any reason why they can't all be first order sites? Budgetary cuts?

Yes but weather does not follow *averages* that's just a mathematical simplifying of weather. I would rather look at when the first 60 and 70 degrees of the season happen. I guarantee that the first 60 of the season happens way before April 19th and that it's actually very rare not to get 60 at least once or twice during the winter. And I don't believe there has been a single April without 70 degrees happening at least once. Averages don't give a good picture of our actual climate. Also, the ocean is great at making the weather boring (I love extremes.)

85 degrees in March 1990, 35 years ago, felt really nice too lol.