we have a very long driveway its on an incline ,,,,,,,,,true story in the old days when I first moved here I drove a thunderbird and when it would snow I would have to back into my neighbors driveway across the street and then look left then right and if no cars or people were coming I would have to gun it to get up my driveway LOL,,,,,fast forward to when one of my other neighbors invited us to there house for a Holiday Party they were introducing me to neighbors whom I had never met and I shake hands with this one guy and who says " OHHHHH your the guy who drives that blue T Bird, I laugh my ass off when it snows and you back up into Gerrys driveway " ---ps my kid is still at work not coming home for a while