Eskimo Joe

FYI

The primary drives up into Pittsburgh and everyone flips.

It happens more than you think. There is absolutely no QA/QC for weather apps. I would love to see something like American Meteorological Society or National Weather Association offer a "seal of approval" for apps that maintain things like updates, appropriate warning information, etc. Worse yet, certain apps like Operating System based platforms are largely not customizable and default to the organizational settings. All of these work to undermine the credibility of weather apps and unfairly degrade the ethos of the meteorological community.

Strongly disagree. Apps and websites featuring questionable sourced weather information abound. Local, trusted media and meteorologists are needed now more than ever. Take Windows 11 for example. I get push notifications for Rockville, MD for tomorrow on my work laptop that it's going to be a high of 4° degrees tomorrow. How is this even remotely accurate?

Same. It's ten years since we've had any real winter this these parts. It's like winter has just ceased to exist anymore.

Yea we're in real trouble. Winter is essentially on life support at this point.

JFC I hope that's wrong.

Clouds seem to be the only thing preventing our afternoon highs from torching.

Yup. Then it was gone in a week.

Yup. We've really devolved into a winter climate more akin to Georgia or South Carolina.

Overnight GFS showing a rapid strengthening of the polar vortex after this episode. Yikes.

I think we know where this is headed folks

Am I missing something, or do the 12z Euro/ENS and GEFS just dump all the cold air out west and just torch the east coast.

Well said Bob. Good luck to your backyard this winter.

I'd take a continuous series of light to moderate events that don't erode a block, vs one "big dog" storm that melts off in 4 days. Snow-on-snow is the best!

Yes that's definitely occurring. Hopefully we can get the PDO to return to a more neutral if not slightly positive state in the long term.

To be clear, I'm not debbing on this winter. We have several favorable factors working in our favor thus far, and as @WxUSAF has noted these torches advertised in the medium to long range have been muted as we close on the date.

While I hope to be wrong, I agree. We're investing a lot of hope in an early SSWE and the past 10 years have largely been putrid for snow lovers in this subforum.

Oof, not good to see.

With our climate becoming increasingly hostile to snow each winter, we need as many things to go right as possible.

18z GFS/GEFS shows a legitimate fail mode for us, and one that I'm always concerned about happening. The trough dumps out west, flexes the southeast ridge, and we just torch while the central and western US score. Hope this is just a fluke.

My goals before Christmas: Outstanding: multiple snow events, whether all advisory/warning/combination of these Great: One warning level snowfall event. Good: One advisory level snowfall event Bad: No snow Shut the Blinds: patterns fails and we get back to zonal puke

Hey maybe the PDO is tilting towards our favor?

The fly in the ointment right now for the holidays is a lack of a -NAO. It's tough to get a big snowstorm without that feature to hold a storm closer to the coast. I'm not unhappy by any stretch of the imagination though...it beats Pacific Puke with 580dm heights across the entire CONUS!