North Balti Zen

Starting as sleet in Baltimore city. Should be snow soon based on rest of your obs. Super excited to have a legit system this early to start the winter.

And Leon’s getting laaarrrgggeeerrrrr...

35 with a dew point of 18 in Baltimore. Is this one of those deals where when the precip starts the temp falls a few degrees?

Apparently. Chasing an inch was/is reasonable. Anyone in the cities with a bar higher than that is setting up for disappointment.

Yes, new. Just started a few weeks ago with four runs a day.

again, if we see an inch at bwi or dca, will be first time in 20-30 years for that much in November. That's pretty cool to chase/hope for, this early.

Looking forward to the elusive but super welcome cold/wet warm/dry winter. Which, actually, was kinda how '09/'10 went down...

Two less zeros?

Just depends on people's hopes/expectations. Based on the tweets I put in the other thread, if we can eke out 1" at BWI and/or DCA...it would be first time doing so in November since the 90s. That's maybe doable...maybe. At least, more or a worthy hope/chase than the crazy 4+ inch amounts inside the beltways.

Important context for just how rare this chase is for the beltways dwellers:

Pretty hard to take this all that seriously, in terms of accumulations, for the beltway area dwellers. Seeing something frozen would be pretty cool in any event.

I wish. Maybe next week some mangled flakes.

It’s the only way to be safe. down to I-80 now and pulled off for breakfast. The drive down to here had snow whole way and accumulation starting on roads up in higher sections of 219. They were calling for 1-3 inches up there before changing to rain this afternoon. So happy to see snow again.

Good morning from Ridgway, PA. SNOW! An accidental snow chase, thanks to work. About to hit the road, but should see snow for a little while on drive. i totally get snow chasing now for those of you who have been able to do it.

Did they cancel winter again in the other thread?

So work took me to NE Pa near the NY border today - had to drive and it went long and so I am grabbing a hotel room instead of driving five hours back and that means I might catch some snow in the AM. Which would be super ok.

Where do honey badger storms fall on the severe scale?

BWI: 28.8" DCA: 21.1" IAD: 35.7" RIC: 19.6" Tiebreaker (SBY): 14.0" MBY: 29.5"

The sub-header to this thread "is an early start a bad sign" probably is not a worry we need to have at this point...

It was a very tight gradient cutoff from dry slot to pounding - as evidenced by BWI coming in at 29.2 inches for the storm (the record for BWI). My part of Balt City stayed in the crazy snow but eastern sections of the city and Balt County were dealing with that dry air issue, I think.

For those who keep an eye on such things:

I wish I could...

He's gone loopy. I think he's trying to fill the space that Justin Berk once occupied. And it's weird because he spent so many years wish-casting away any snow chances.

I have a question re: the weeklies and people's use of them. When people get happy or sad about the weeklies, or optimistic or pessimistic, or bullish or cautious, I guess I wonder at any reaction, as my understanding is that the weeklies are spun off of one particular run of a particular model. I am not making much sense, maybe, and this is hard to communicate. If the modeled conditions change from one run to the next, won't the weeklies then change significantly based on that? I guess I am wondering what people really can take away from them. Some of the good posters on here really look to them, perhaps as one more tool, but I see a lot of reaction to them that seems like folks are taking them for more than a tool (and a changeable tool at that). I guess I don't have a point. Carry on.

Thanks for the initial thoughts on places slightly north, all. My wife has made it to the next round of interviews, so a little less theoretical than it was. Would Taneytown or Union Mills areas also be a good target snow-wise? The place she is interviewing is in PA north of Frederick and we would be looking to split the difference between there and Baltimore eventually. Hoff convinced me some time ago (without knowing it) that for snow lovers it's worth the commute to live where chances are better, so if she gets this gig (still a few interview rounds to go), it would let me scratch that itch maybe.