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Depends on how early you book. I did trips to Breckenridge/Keystone/A-Basin 5 years in a row ending in 2020, if I booked my flights with Southwest in like September/early October for Jan/Feb I could usually get a round trip for about $300, sometimes even less. Paid only $160 one year! Lodging and your lift ticket/pass end up being the majority of the cost. Plan on ~$1000-1500 combined for those for a 5ish day ski trip with maybe one break day. Again the earlier you book the better And then food/drink. Add in ~$50/day for rentals if needed. I always flew SW so I could bring my gear for free. So probably ~$2k all-in these days. I did it for about $1500 total usually, but the last time I went out there was end of Feb 2020. Amazing how the world has changed since then!

2014? That's the one I remember from my senior year at JMU. We got ~9" in Harrisonburg, but just 15-20 miles south was bare ground. The N-S gradient was pretty crazy in the valley with that one.

NAM overamped 2+ days out? wow we've never seen that before

Just about 15 miles should do it. Let's get CHO under some dark green/blue. We've been screwed by the last two events!

It's already been somewhat said but completely ignoring the MAJOR geographic differences between the two is bad science/forecasting/discussion. Hoffman's point holds true whether CC is happening or not. This has nothing to do with that topic. Siberia is not North America. Never was, never will be.

We need this emoji as a standard option on here. Who's got access to that?? @stormtracker?

I think my favorite oddball takes are from the people who check in here like once a week and then make "all hope is lost" posts when things don't look the exact same as they did 7 days ago The GFS has me excited. Solid chances are coming and that's all we can ask for rn.

This board gets a little bit more insane every year

So you latched onto a single post from Jan 10th and then ignored the next 2 weeks of pattern discussion. Cool. And you know the people discussing the forecast can only discuss what the models are spitting out, right? Hoffman's post was effectively "if this look holds, this is our best chance in forever". You chose to interpret that as gospel 3 weeks out. You've been in this hobby way too long to expect models to be that accurate...

Try reading it slower. I know it's tough for you

Okay I went back and read... going to disagree pretty strongly with this entire statement. If you thought Feb 5/6 wasn't a long shot when we saw it pop up around the 25th, you weren't paying attention close enough. Numerous posts about how it would be nice to score during our "lull" that week. Here's a few from around then... And what do we see on the 11/12th and beyond the last few GFS runs? Cold air being reestablished with shortwaves sliding across to our south. If the can has been kicked it's like 2 days

Interesting reading this and realizing I have the same gut feeling about that period. I can remember a few unseasonable warmups in DC during that time frame between 2015-2020, some followed by significant cold. It killed most of the cherry blossoms one year when they all popped about 3-4 weeks early and then we had some serious cold a couple weeks later. Tourists were very upset.

In this hobby for interesting weather more than anything else. Snow is nice, but first week of Feb looks fun either way

Not to make an example out of this post, but in my experience the frustrations people have about DCA come from having a pretty significant misunderstanding of the environment there, both man made and natural. I spent 10 summers teaching sailing at the marina off the parkway south of the airport and know it well. Downtown DC, Bolling AFB, the Naval Research Lab, DCA, and oldtown Alexandria all sit in the Potomac's river valley. It's a big bowl thats 75% urban basically at sea level. That's quite a bit different from the environment at BWI (150') or Camp Springs (270'), both of which are on relative high points within their local environment. It's a large part of the reason DCA radiates so poorly. Portions of the sky that are in view at either of those other two airports are replaced with city skyline and the hills across the river in SE, all of which are radiating heat back towards the airport. You really need to have spent some time on that part of the river or in East Potomac Park to get a feel for how low it is down there. EDIT: adding a map for clarity. red line is roughly 50ft

they should measure from Fort Reno Park

Definitely not representative of NW DC, but it's fairly accurate for downtown. I lived in Adams Morgan/Woodley Park for 5 years which is only ~2 miles from the WH, and ~175' in extra elevation. I can remember multiple events where downtown was like 90% white rain and north of Florida Ave had a couple inches of accumulation.

Might be memory bias on my part but I think it was doing similarly weird things late Dec/early Jan when this past week's pattern was coming over the horizon. And we did get a couple massive mid-continent storms/cutters before the current cold

From my hobbiest perspective it seems like the heavy axis of precip continued to shift south after 9-10am until it was centered over NoVa more so than Central MD where a lot of guidance showed it midday. Why? No idea. I'd would love to have a pro met give us some details on what they think happened. It's still snowing in Charlottesville despite radar showing next to nothing down here. Fluffy dendrites too. Guidance had us partly cloudy by 10am when I went to bed last night. Wild.

What is going on with this storm?? Look at the returns from Richmond to Fredericksburg back over to Albemarle right now vs what the HRRR or 3k NAM are showing

and it's now been almost an hour of light to moderate parachutes. Only accumulating in cold spots and on top of the remaining snowpack but what a great surprise, it looked like we were too far south for anything more than midday flurries last night

WOW sudden burst of dendrites all the way down here in Cville. Was not expecting the back end to make it this far south at all! That has to be a good sign for you all near the metros.

Okay loins have been girded. Ready for the 00Z NAM and battle with the Hittite Empire, anything else?

Haven't measured at my place but reports around me are all in the 2.5-4" range. We had some light ZR around dawn as those last bands came through, should glacier up nicely tonight. We're running a few degrees below forecast down this way. Last night's short range guidance had central VA making it almost to 40F before the front arrives this afternoon. Seems like that's going to bust low. 30/25 with thick overcast in Hooville.

36/8 in Charlottesville

How do they handle ratios? 10:1? and is this showing snowfall or depth?