dseagull

Rates have really picked up on barnegat bay. Secondary roads ate mainly covered. Treated primary roads have some slush on them now. Spoke to my parents in Salem County and they have puking snow right now. Inland of me looks to be cashing in good.

Gotcha. You're just a stones throw up the bay from me. I'm Sure you have seen me towing boats in my work boat many times.

Where are you at again? Toms river? Radar seems to be falling apart here. Not sure if it will fill back in for awhile.

Getting slotted on the coast. Sun peaking out in barnegat.

A pretty scene overlooking Alloway Lake in Salem County, sent by my father. They did well with the last snow as well. Thankfully, the lake has since frozen and it becomes picturesque rather quickly.

I agree with you 100 percent, and as firefighter, I understand the importance of resources in the public sector. I thought I went over this in previous posts. (In another arena, the structure of emergency declarations absolutely should be debated, as it can become more efficent and less prone to abuse and government/tax dollar waste.) But I digress... I wasn't looking for a debate, and it certainly isn't political in nature. It started as a tongue in cheek comment when just a few people were on the board and then it turned into something else it wasn't intended to be. Back to weather. The wind is starting to hum now @ 16 knots, and with it, the temps are continuing to climb (34.6,) limiting accumulation on paved surfaces. I will be heading inland about 6 miles to enjoy breakfast with coworkers and friends at a Luciles diner in Barnegat. It is currently 8 degrees cooler there. The water temps are just brutal for accumulation in my backyard.

It begins. Instant stickage on the back roads in front of the homestead. Dog isn't happy about canceling hunting, but loves snow nonetheless.

Yea, I remember it well. There were a few other events as well. As I posted further up the thread, I understand the logic and how it is designed to open up the doors for emergency aid. However, there are some inadvertent downsides to frequent issuance when used as a means of keeping people off the roads, which is so often the real focus. Either way, my comment was lounge in cheek. Pine Barrens look to be jackpot land. The roads will absolutely be an issue in rural areas.

Up to 33.4 already. 5 miles inland, 28. The cutoff between 1 inch and 5 inches will be tight. Pros and cons of living on the water as a snow lover.

I get the logic. They just lose their implication of seriousness if they are issued too often. For some storms, they are used to open the doors for federal disaster aid. This is not a disaster. It's a light snow.

First flakes are falling here on Barnegat Bay. 31.7 While 4-6 is being called for, I'd be surprised if we don't mix for a period of time between 11 and 2 on the water. Everything else looks good for our biggest snowfall in the past two years. Very interested in watching the live breakdown of where the IVT sets up and if any actual banding sets up for a brief bit.

Coworker is at Utches Marina in Cape May. Said the returns on the radar are realistic. It's lightly snowing. Makes sense with the numbers almost. Thought Virga would be an issue with the leading returns still.

Agreed. I think I articulated my argument poorly. You're right, its a weather board. Apologies.

True, but misleading. Dissolving the public schools was never an intention. Dissolving blanket BOE curriculum and protocol was the idea. Different areas and different cultures see advantageous results from different format.

For those who are interested in water temperatures in the near coastal zone, I have 1st hand Data from this morning. I responded to a commercial vessel out or barnegat that was having steering issues and wanted a simple escort back through the Inlet on a strong ebb tide this morning. Surface bay water was a chilly 33.5 degrees. I met the vessel around 6 miles off and had a water temp of 41. Buoy 44091 was hovering around 44.5 (14 miles off.) The vessel was returning from 65 miles off, inside of the Lindenkol Canyon and had 54. These temps remind me of 2015/2016, before our epic freeze.

Hope you get to enjoy it down there. I'm 69 miles up the parkway from you. Been some decent coastals, but I'm missing the bombs with snow that we were getting used to. Enjoy, sir.

It comes down to lawsuits. That's the gist of it. Friends and family in my generation always ask why school is dismissed or cancelled for seemingly benign weather events. It's always about liability, and the general trend to be more cautious. Not necessarily a bad thing, except for those who need to make last minute arrangements for childcare. Times change. It will be interesting to see whether the bullish forecasts by NWS verify. They have the tools and expertise, so who am I to doubt them. I respect the risk evaluation system they have created, similarly to that of the Coast Guard. Human life is valued and more heavily weighted in these equations.

Well, that was a big step for Mt. Holly to take. I've always wondered if they are coerced to err on the side of caution for school-day forecasts, figuring that they would rather subtract from projected totals, rather than have superintendents get blindsided while kids are in school. On the other hand, 3 inches on the roads or 6 inches on the roads doesn't make a huge difference for bussing kids these days.... Confidence in the forecast can't be too high in the setup. Heck, it even has me second guessing my hunting trip 20 miles West in Pemberton, away from my home on the coast.

We will have to wait for our big storm. I've seen these surprise small swaths enough times not to write it off until it's over. Going to be a great time bird hunting with my dog in Pemberton, NJ tomorrow. Nothing better than watching birds flush into falling snow. Hope I don't drive home to find it raining or mixing on barnegat bay.

I miss winter flounder dearly. The tastiest of the flatfish. They just won't enter the estuary waters in great numbers anymore, and their numbers are also likely down for one reason or another. However, last year during spring blackfish season, I accidentally caught one. Quick thinking on my buddies part lead us to change up rigs the next trip out and drop from small long shank rigs with bloodworms on the periphery of some of the wrecks we were fishing. To our surprise, they were stacked with winter flounder. (Barnegat) (Sorry to derail...)

Just got back from responding to a shore-power electrical fault alarm on a 62 foot viking yacht at local Marina. Temp is 29 and freezing rain has made everything glazed and crunchy. The owner of the vessel didn't Lock the 50Amp plug grommet in place, resulting in ice shorting out the breaker on the bulkhead. Very treacherous docks to be walking on. Problem quickly resolved. Main Road was fine, but side streets are an Icy mess. Took some measurements before crawling back into bed. We now have a compacted 2.25-2.5 inches. Fun little storm. Friday has the potential to be a good storm to track. Winter is here. Hope we can capitalize before the mild and stalled out crud Locks in next weekend. We don't need anymore rain in coastal ocean county.

Intensity just increased drastically on barnegat bay. Unfortunately, wind is beginning to really pick up. Temps have actually dropped back to 28.2 from 30.4 an hour ago. If these rates continue, we will have 4 inches before the changeover early morning. I'm impressed and content. Thank God the drought is over. (My German shorthair is having a blast... even after hunting birds for 2 hours this afternoon. Makes me smile.)

Road finally caved

Warming quickly. Great to see the ground covered for a change.

Central Barnegat Bay. Flipped 40 minutes ago and the ground is covered. Side streets caving. However, temp is climbing a tenth of a degree every 5-10 minutes. Currently 30.2 We will pick up 1-1.25 and it will mix and the ground will be bare tomorrow. At work, I had 37.8 for surface bay water at 1115AM and 40.9 for ocean water just outside Barnegat Inlet an hour earlier. Water is warm, we are limited with the wind swinging towards the east and accelerating already. Inland guys, enjoy.