Maestrobjwa

Ah okay...so I'm guessing the Upperco, MD area would come before the city (that's where me and my folks go on a Fall drive each year).

I'm talking about him and others. I don't even want to ask questions anymore because I'll probably get trolled (again). Worst mistake I ever made on here was apparently asking too many questions last year....and now nobody will let me forget it--despite the crazier posters on here that get a pass. Now I'm asking more for a "how things work" reason than a "What will definitely happen" reason.

What's wrong with asking questions? This is what I mean...now granted I'm learning more about what ya just can't know for sure...so those more chaos-related questions? Not so much. I probably won't be on as much in general (unless there's something 24 hours out...and even then just sparingly, lol) But see...y'all have turned it into a more hostile place to ask questions because of comments like this.

Thank you for actually answering my question. I feel like I can't even do that here anymore...sheesh

Better than okay--I won't be tracking (much) because I have no expectations for this winter based on what I've seen. This winter is already mediocre imo barring a fluke--and I'm kinda at peace with that. Will it still kinda suck watching it happen? Somewhat...but this time around I'm not gonna be looking on here as much to hear about pattern change this, potential that, digital snow this, digital snow that....not worth the energy. Just take whatever when it gets here, enjoy scenery snow (at least we can still get that!) Get off my back, all of ya...I do not understand why everyone acts like I'm the only one who loves snow around here...y'all allow other folks to freak out but somehow when I do it ya wanna send me to the psych ward...y'all are somethin', smh.

So hang on...can we summarize last year as the cold air not having long enough to get over to our side before the blocking came? (with the secondary problem of an unfortunate split of the vortex in the wrong spot in February). Ya gotta wonder if the first (the cold air getting stuck on the other side of the world) was something random or part of a bigger problem.

I wouldn't if I were you! Lol I know I ain't...I mean maybe from a distance, but that's about it! Don't see the point since a) it's a Nina and b) we don't know about the base state and what still works and what doesn't!

Now we had this last year...with the torched November. But then we still didn't have a ton of cold air. I remember @psuhoffman suggesting that the warm November may have influenced what happened in January (blocking with lack of cold air). So...will it make a difference this time? That's the question...

Now last year when I went out to Caroll County the day after election day...the color was just coming in full in Baltimore yet out there the peak already passed...was trying to avoid the same outcome this year! Does it go from west to east?

Any foliage updates?

4th double dip this century...2nd one the last 6 years. Why do we double-dip on ninas? Boo!

And we were lucky to get that! (Thanks to Commutagedon, lol)

This. At this point I'd rather risk cold and dry...at least it would show we can still have a cold source!

For clarification...the -PDO is the hostile PAC, right?

Why do folks keep using that model? Haha (worse this Twitter is treating it like gospel, lol)

Nope! 4.8"...LOL That was a troll job that time!

But seriously though...I never thought we'd see a stretch where it would be this hard for Baltimore to get to 5 inches...I mean ya used to think that was a basic achievable thing every few years! But it'll be 6 this January barring anything in December...one 5 incher this winter would kinda be a winner by that standard, haha

And that would kinda be a Nina normal, wouldn't it? Miller B train, lol

Yes it is better to know now than later...I know I'm not gonna track much of anything (and hence staying off of here more and sparing myself depression/angst, lol) because you pretty much know what we're dealing with. And it's typical nina...now what's annoying is that this is the FOURTH Nina we've had in the last 6 years, smh I still wanna know why ninas seem to come in pairs more than niños...sheesh.

Wait the PAC was actually favorable that year? (now,I know the Nino never really coupled to the atmosphere that winter...and I attributed that to the somewhat lackluster results)

So...how many consecutive years before we talk about this being a mainstay? I mean I'm wondering about history here...any records about the most consecutive years with a hostile PAC? (Did that happen in the 70s?)

So basically the PAC is gonna be the same as it has been the last 5 years?

Now tell me this...what does ACE do to the weather patterns and such?

I still can't quite process what we saw, lol I mean that was something else...wow!!! In case there was any doubt he'll be in the HOF one day...there ya go!! But it's crazy for that game to end that way--with a win and history-making kick--after all the reasons we had to lose...that's kinda mind-boggling!!

"Wait wait--turn those planes around!"