Yeah, I don't know what some here expect, If most actually checked there climo, They would see Nov snow avg's are next to nill for the majority, So if you get anything its a plus, And some already had some, Its not like you flip a light switch Dec 1st and get buried with snow and you just have system after system come rolling thru every 5 days or so either, All you really want to see is it looks favorable going into Dec for snow and cold and it does right now, So you have to like the chances.