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Yep, need the Friday storm resolved first
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It's all about the interaction out West around the hour 90-110 mark. We need the leftover energy in the far Southwest to aid in the development of our shortwave coming out of the NS. Looking between the 18z and 12z shows how 18z just wasn't able to pull everything together fully and left too much energy out. Ofc, the NS digging and whatnot matters as well but I'd really like to see the energy out west be pulled East more (though this probably won't be resolved until our Friday system goes by as it is interacting with that storm as well). 18z 12z
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Gfs going back and forth, we got plenty of time for that one
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Greenfield definitely caught the edge of the frontogenesis past two hours. I’m not used to decent snow growth in these parts. Definitely going to grab 5-6”
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I feel like since 2010 just about every December down there has been warm minus 2020/2024
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In the SE, Dec of 2019 in F was +2 to +5 vs Dec of 2023’s 0 to +3. So, 2019 was 2 warmer.
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Jeff B started following The Return of the 12/5 Snowstorm
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You guys up there may grab 2 or 3 inches this evening....the CCB actually looks kind of real up there. Down here I'm hoping for a couple inches but might be too far SW.
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Beautiful
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I'm just happy you didn't pull like 10" to my 1.5"..that is what I was horrified of
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I remember being at GYX wth Eck and Jeffafafa he showed us the tree line and I am sure they probably grew alot since 14
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All of the OMEGA and moisture was above the SGZ...I pointed that out in guidance on Sunday.
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I know man. Flurrying here too. I couldn't believe they did that.
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Down in the SE US Dec 2023 was not as warm as 2019. 2023 the warmth was worse across the Lakes/UW and NE
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Same here just west of you. Went mostly sleet for a bit, but some flakes in there now. Maybe we can erode the warm layer with a little better lift.
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Somewhat surprised by your response. I don’t watch the news, and am fully aware this about money; but it doesn’t make it any less silly, especially to the normies. It’s truly becoming the “boy who cried wolf”. Noted for the future not to comment on this aspect. Cheers!
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Dont think the Monday wave is going to be as good as 12z sadly. Less consolidated so far.
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Mid to long range discussion- 2025
WinstonSalemArlington replied to wncsnow's topic in Southeastern States
Happy Hanukkah -
30/28 -SNPL 3.0" total so far. Looks like some solid echoes are about to move in, but I feel like we're going to be dancing with the mix line for the next several hours now.
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Central PA Fall Discussions and Obs
canderson replied to ChescoWx's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
I highly recommend the Ego power shovel or snowblower. Used it today and it was a dream. -
12/3 Snow/Sleet/Mix Bag of Everything Discussion/OBS
Kevin Reilly replied to Mikeymac5306's topic in Philadelphia Region
Drizzle chilly north wind 36f humidity 99% dew point 36f Picked up a trace of sleet three snowflakes and 1.00" of rain on the button. We had more snow here Sunday morning LOL The way I see it we just missed out on 10" of snow. We just could not hold onto the high that slipped away to the east it's a common theme! Please stop! Another common theme is the always present low pressure over the Great Lakes Please stop!! Oh well onto the next. So, is that 978mb storm off the East Coast on the 12z GFS anything to get excited about on December 9th at 6z? or is this like the Phantom Hurricane that was in the Gulf on December 8th on the GFS from last week? -
Tbh that wave has nearly infinitely more potential as it’s not 3 separate ones in a trench coat pretending to be a real storm
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Getting into some heavier 20dbz rates now, -SN, 22/21°F, 4.8" snow
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Not last year. We had a white Christmas, some of us, snow on Christmas Eve and sub zero morning two days before Christmas day. NYC was 13 degrees on the 22nd and 23rd.
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Your answer is more than likely dead on correct. This storm never really got going nor had the dynamics to it. Relatively poor model performance from both the medium and short ranges.
