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2026-2027 Strong/Super El Nino


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5 minutes ago, GaWx said:

Latest CFS RONI peaks at +2.65 to +2.70 in OND, which would be a record high beating 1982:

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Latest CFS ONI is +3.25-30 in OND, meaning keeping the differential near 0.6:

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The coming winter season is goin to be a good test as to whether the absolute RONI value or the delta between it and the RONI is of greater significance. The key is whether or not we get that "La Nino" half-assed Aleutian low like 2023 again.

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46 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

IMO the Niña-like MJO (IO) forcing comes to an end with this El Niño once the +IOD gets established. The standing wave Nino/+IOD forcing combo is going to cause the eastern IO SSTs to upwell and cool off, causing subsidence in that region
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Either way it will be mild, but we would at least have a shot at a decent stretch if you're right.

So the +IOD wasn't that strong in 2015 and 2023??

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41 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

The coming winter season is goin to be a good test as to whether the absolute RONI value or the delta between it and the RONI is of greater significance. The key is whether or not we get that "La Nino" half-assed Aleutian low like 2023 again.

 Evidently based on pro mets I follow, having relatively cooler SST anomalies near Australia compared to warmer anomalies to the east of there will be crucial. For 2023, the models, which earlier had the nice E US trough/Aleutian low that we were salivating over, were then erroneously forecasting cooler near Australia, which is pretty typical of El Niño.

 This strong El Niño is great news for the really bad drought the SE has been enduring.

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6 hours ago, MJO812 said:

That doesnt have anything to do with what will occur 7 months from now.  These long range forecasts have to end. They are rarely right.  Its fun to do one though. 

also with the 50s for the weekend, the average for the stretch will be slightly above normal.  its always hysterics 

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2 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I think keying in on major signals when developing an analog composite does have some value.

Yes but there are also other factors. Either way , this will be a milder winter than last winter. No doubt about that. 

That could be a good thing since suppression will most likely not be an issue. I will take my chances with that even if its snow to rain events.

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