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Northern Ohio Obs/Discussion Part 2


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16 minutes ago, NEOH said:

Dumping snow in South Russell right now. Noticed that CLE bumped snowfall totals... 

...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 AM EST
THURSDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy lake effect snow. Additional snow accumulations of 1
  to 1.5 feet. Winds gusting as high as 35 mph.

* WHERE...Ashtabula Inland, Ashtabula Lakeshore, Geauga, and Lake
  Counties.

* WHEN...Until 7 AM EST Thursday.

* IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult. The hazardous conditions
  could impact holiday travel.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...The heaviest lake effect snow will persist
  near the lakeshore this evening into Wednesday morning. Another
  period of heavy lake effect snow will arrive Wednesday afternoon
  and overnight, impacting the entire area. Snowfall rates may reach
  2 inches per hour at times Wednesday evening.

Hoping this band can hang out before shifting north.   Looks like tomorrow afternoon and overnight is our next shot, will be happy with the low end of that.  

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I could see that 12-18" additional panning out near the lakeshore in far NE OH, especially in northern Ashtabula County, but Geauga County won't get that much IMO. The downside of grouping multiple counties together in a warning. It just seems like there will be too much of a break after snow lifts out of there tonight, and I think stuff will progress through too quickly with the cold front tomorrow evening. There's definitely a shot Geauga County verifies a warning at some point (they haven't yet...) but the 12-18" more feels inflated there. We'll see, as I've been wrong before. Nice band ongoing at the moment. 

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Measured about an hour ago…0.8” of fluffy snow through the day to push my event total to 3.9”. Light snow with the first little clipper has picked back up over the last half hour. We haven’t had too many stretches like this where it just wants to snow in recent years, this is good stuff! Glad the band that flared up this afternoon helped make up for lackluster totals last night to my north.  

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On 12/30/2025 at 2:54 PM, TheClimateChanger said:

Good news on the Lake Erie ice front. Recent warmth has brought total ice coverage down to less than 25% of normal to date (4% coverage versus mean of 13% for the date). All of the lakes are running a little behind normal, as of yesterday's analysis.

 

Wow, big gains over the last two days. Almost wonder if the wind wasn't messing with algorithm. Now just 1% below the 52-year average.

 

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Measured an additional 5" mainly yesterday evening and overnight.  Storm total would be 12.5", which seems to align with other nearby areas.   Pretty good storm overall!  This puts me at 50" season to date. 

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On 12/31/2025 at 3:20 PM, TheClimateChanger said:

Wow, big gains over the last two days. Almost wonder if the wind wasn't messing with algorithm. Now just 1% below the 52-year average.

 

Ice advancing quickly now. Erie more than 1/4 ice covered, as of today, which is 9% higher than the 53-year mean. The thaw next week should trim that back.

 

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Returned home to a solid snowpack this afternoon compared to what it was Wednesday morning. Would guess my house saw 6 or 7" of snow while I was gone based on nearby reports. Wednesday afternoon and evening looked like a particularly snowy period on radar, heard the roads were quite bad. 

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The snowpack has mostly melted IMBY. Just piles left at this point. Finally a decent view of the lake ice today. Not much out there east of the western basin. The upcoming warm temps and rain should melt quite a bit in the western basin.

 

 

 

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Definitely was a surprise this morning! Measured 3.6” at 10am, have had enough since then that my event total is right around 4”. That squall early this morning wasn’t really lake enhanced either, I was sleeping but based on radar and how much fell it must’ve been dumping for an hour or two. 

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16 hours ago, OHweather said:

Definitely was a surprise this morning! Measured 3.6” at 10am, have had enough since then that my event total is right around 4”. That squall early this morning wasn’t really lake enhanced either, I was sleeping but based on radar and how much fell it must’ve been dumping for an hour or two. 

CLE only reported 1.3" yesterday. Seems like that area specifically always comes in with the lowest totals. Looking at the PNS reports areas right around there reported more. 

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On 1/12/2026 at 8:33 AM, NEOH said:

CLE only reported 1.3" yesterday. Seems like that area specifically always comes in with the lowest totals. Looking at the PNS reports areas right around there reported more. 

It’s the measuring at the airport. It seems like if there’s any reason for them to struggle (snow quickly melts after it falls, snow is blowing around, etc) they will come in lower than immediately surrounding obs. I don’t think it’s intentional (if it’s cold and not windy they’re usually ok) but it’s been consistent for years. 
 

Looks like some more snow late Wednesday into Thursday, with a little shortwave crossing late Wednesday ushering in some NW flow lake effect. Doesn’t look like a crazy setup, but will definitely freshen things back up after a couple of milder days. 

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59 minutes ago, OHweather said:

It’s the measuring at the airport. It seems like if there’s any reason for them to struggle (snow quickly melts after it falls, snow is blowing around, etc) they will come in lower than immediately surrounding obs. I don’t think it’s intentional (if it’s cold and not windy they’re usually ok) but it’s been consistent for years. 
 

Looks like some more snow late Wednesday into Thursday, with a little shortwave crossing late Wednesday ushering in some NW flow lake effect. Doesn’t look like a crazy setup, but will definitely freshen things back up after a couple of milder days. 

Thanks. I know we've talked about CLE's measuring in the past. It just sticks out more when locations directly adjacent measure 2x as much :lol:.  

Looking forward to the upcoming pattern... we'll have snow flying for several days it looks like. 

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11 hours ago, NEOH said:

Thanks. I know we've talked about CLE's measuring in the past. It just sticks out more when locations directly adjacent measure 2x as much :lol:.  

Looking forward to the upcoming pattern... we'll have snow flying for several days it looks like. 

Oh yeah, for sure. It's a little frustrating. Some of the observers really do try and come to a reasonable number, but it's hit or miss. Can say the same about most climate sites (but not all, there are some that are usually pretty dead on!).

In better news, the 0z models have trended a little more amped with the system Wednesday afternoon/evening, bringing 1-3" of synoptic snow to north central and northeast OH through the evening (probably 2-5" of snow in the snowbelt through Wednesday evening with lake enhancement), with some component of snow squalls Wednesday evening even outside of the snowbelt. Beyond that, it seems like a situation where fluffy lake effect/enhanced snow performs well through Thursday afternoon, especially in the higher terrain. Road conditions will probably be very shitty Wednesday evening and night with snow showers and squalls along with gusty winds and plunging temperatures. 

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Short rangers looking juicy, 8-12 through Fri roughly here and north, some are a little more north and just miss here with the heavier stuff.  6"+ looking likely.   Wouldn't be surprised to get upgraded to a warning.  

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6 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Short rangers looking juicy, 8-12 through Fri roughly here and north, some are a little more north and just miss here with the heavier stuff.  6"+ looking likely.   Wouldn't be surprised to get upgraded to a warning.  

Just looked at the 12z runs and they have improved with more precip. Snow is down to patches around here so it will be nice to rebuild the snowpack again. 

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The uptick in the snowfall forecast over the last 24 hours has been remarkable, and some models still have more snow than what’s in the current NWS forecast. I am just leaving the office and it is snowing here, looking forward to a very snow next 24 hours! 

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43 minutes ago, OHweather said:

The uptick in the snowfall forecast over the last 24 hours has been remarkable, and some models still have more snow than what’s in the current NWS forecast. I am just leaving the office and it is snowing here, looking forward to a very snow next 24 hours! 

Great to see such positive trends today. Rain has flipped over to snow in the Chagrin area. 

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