famartin Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Rank Value Ending Date 1 78.4 1995-1996 2 73.5 1960-1961 3 68.2 2010-2011 4 64.9 1977-1978 5 64.5 1993-1994 6 58.3 1957-1958 7 57.3 1966-1967 8 53.1 2002-2003 9 52.1 1947-1948 10 47.9 2009-2010 11 47.8 2003-2004 12 43.4 2004-2005 13 43.2 1963-1964 14 42.1 1933-1934 15 41.2 1948-1949 16 40.2 1955-1956 17 39.3 2000-2001 18 38.1 1978-1979 19 37.9 2005-2006 20 37.4 1940-1941 21 37.3 1959-1960 22 32.6 1986-1987 23 32.1 1946-1947 24 31.0 1982-1983 25 30.8 1981-1982 26 29.6 1961-1962 26 29.6 1944-1945 28 29.3 1945-1946 29 28.9 1983-1984 30 28.8 1992-1993 31 28.6 1968-1969 32 28.5 1938-1939 33 27.4 1969-1970 34 27.1 2008-2009 34 27.1 1964-1965 36 26.6 1942-1943 37 25.0 1976-1977 38 24.1 1956-1957 39 23.6 1970-1971 40 23.2 1984-1985 40 23.2 1943-1944 42 22.8 1987-1988 43 22.7 1932-1933 44 22.0 1985-1986 45 21.7 1962-1963 46 21.6 1939-1940 47 21.5 1990-1991 48 20.4 1973-1974 49 19.9 1975-1976 50 19.5 1980-1981 51 18.8 1965-1966 51 18.8 1934-1935 53 18.4 1999-2000 54 17.8 1958-1959 55 16.8 1971-1972 56 16.7 1951-1952 57 16.5 2006-2007 58 16.4 1974-1975 59 16.3 1996-1997 60 14.7 1935-1936 61 14.6 2007-2008 62 14.5 1989-1990 63 14.3 1979-1980 63 14.3 1952-1953 65 14.0 1953-1954 66 13.9 1991-1992 66 13.9 1967-1968 66 13.9 1941-1942 69 13.7 1954-1955 70 12.8 1998-1999 71 11.1 1937-1938 72 11.0 1936-1937 73 10.9 1950-1951 74 10.7 1949-1950 75 10.3 1994-1995 76 7.5 1988-1989 77 7.3 1931-1932 78 6.9 1997-1998 78 6.9 1930-1931 80 3.6 2001-2002 81 1.9 1972-1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Rank Value Ending Date 1 78.4 1995-1996 2 73.5 1960-1961 3 68.2 2010-2011 4 64.9 1977-1978 5 64.5 1993-1994 6 58.3 1957-1958 7 57.3 1966-1967 8 53.1 2002-2003 9 52.1 1947-1948 10 47.9 2009-2010 11 47.8 2003-2004 12 43.4 2004-2005 13 43.2 1963-1964 14 42.1 1933-1934 15 41.2 1948-1949 16 40.2 1955-1956 17 39.3 2000-2001 18 38.1 1978-1979 19 37.9 2005-2006 20 37.4 1940-1941 21 37.3 1959-1960 22 32.6 1986-1987 23 32.1 1946-1947 24 31.0 1982-1983 25 30.8 1981-1982 26 29.6 1961-1962 26 29.6 1944-1945 28 29.3 1945-1946 29 28.9 1983-1984 30 28.8 1992-1993 31 28.6 1968-1969 32 28.5 1938-1939 33 27.4 1969-1970 34 27.1 2008-2009 34 27.1 1964-1965 36 26.6 1942-1943 37 25.0 1976-1977 38 24.1 1956-1957 39 23.6 1970-1971 40 23.2 1984-1985 40 23.2 1943-1944 42 22.8 1987-1988 43 22.7 1932-1933 44 22.0 1985-1986 45 21.7 1962-1963 46 21.6 1939-1940 47 21.5 1990-1991 48 20.4 1973-1974 49 19.9 1975-1976 50 19.5 1980-1981 51 18.8 1965-1966 51 18.8 1934-1935 53 18.4 1999-2000 54 17.8 1958-1959 55 16.8 1971-1972 56 16.7 1951-1952 57 16.5 2006-2007 58 16.4 1974-1975 59 16.3 1996-1997 60 14.7 1935-1936 61 14.6 2007-2008 62 14.5 1989-1990 63 14.3 1979-1980 63 14.3 1952-1953 65 14.0 1953-1954 66 13.9 1991-1992 66 13.9 1967-1968 66 13.9 1941-1942 69 13.7 1954-1955 70 12.8 1998-1999 71 11.1 1937-1938 72 11.0 1936-1937 73 10.9 1950-1951 74 10.7 1949-1950 75 10.3 1994-1995 76 7.5 1988-1989 77 7.3 1931-1932 78 6.9 1997-1998 78 6.9 1930-1931 80 3.6 2001-2002 81 1.9 1972-1973 thanks Ray...Do you have the biggest snowfalls for each season?...recent years flood the top 20... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Thanks, Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Look how close Newark was from being number one this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Rank Value Ending Date Central Park 1 78.4 1995-1996..............75.6 2 73.5 1960-1961..............54.7 3 68.2 2010-2011..............61.9 4 64.9 1977-1978..............50.7 5 64.5 1993-1994..............53.4 6 58.3 1957-1958..............44.7 7 57.3 1966-1967..............51.5 8 53.1 2002-2003..............49.3 9 52.1 1947-1948..............63.2 10 47.9 2009-2010...............51.4 11 47.8 2003-2004...............42.6 12 43.4 2004-2005...............41.0 13 43.2 1963-1964...............44.7 14 42.1 1933-1934...............52.0 15 41.2 1948-1949...............46.6 16 40.2 1955-1956...............33.5 17 39.3 2000-2001...............35.0 18 38.1 1978-1979...............29.4 19 37.9 2005-2006...............40.0 20 37.4 1940-1941...............39.0 21 37.3 1959-1960...............39.2 22 32.6 1986-1987...............23.1 23 32.1 1946-1947...............30.6 24 31.0 1982-1983...............27.2 25 30.8 1981-1982...............24.6 26 29.6 1961-1962...............18.1 26 29.6 1944-1945...............27.1 28 29.3 1945-1946...............31.4 29 28.9 1983-1984...............25.4 30 28.8 1992-1993...............24.5 31 28.6 1968-1969...............30.2 32 28.5 1938-1939...............37.3 33 27.4 1969-1970...............25.6 34 27.1 2008-2009...............27.6 34 27.1 1964-1965...............24.4 36 26.6 1942-1943...............29.5 37 25.0 1976-1977...............24.5 38 24.1 1956-1957...............21.9 39 23.6 1970-1971...............15.5 40 23.2 1984-1985...............24.1 40 23.2 1943-1944...............23.8 42 22.8 1987-1988...............19.1 43 22.7 1932-1933...............27.0 44 22.0 1985-1986...............13.0 45 21.7 1962-1963...............16.3 46 21.6 1939-1940...............25.7 47 21.5 1990-1991...............24.9 48 20.4 1973-1974...............23.5 49 19.9 1975-1976...............17.3 50 19.5 1980-1981...............19.4 51 18.8 1965-1966...............21.4 51 18.8 1934-1935...............33.8 53 18.4 1999-2000...............16.3 54 17.8 1958-1959...............13.0 55 16.8 1971-1972...............22.9 56 16.7 1951-1952...............19.7 57 16.5 2006-2007...............12.4 58 16.4 1974-1975...............13.1 59 16.3 1996-1997...............10.0 60 14.7 1935-1936...............33.2 61 14.6 2007-2008...............11.9 62 14.5 1989-1990...............13.4 63 14.3 1979-1980...............12.8 63 14.3 1952-1953...............15.1 65 14.0 1953-1954...............15.8 66 13.9 1991-1992...............12.6 66 13.9 1967-1968...............19.5 66 13.9 1941-1942...............11.3 69 13.7 1954-1955...............11.5 70 12.8 1998-1999...............12.7 71 11.1 1937-1938...............15.1 72 11.0 1936-1937...............15.6 73 10.9 1950-1951...............11.6 74 10.7 1949-1950...............13.8 75 10.3 1994-1995...............11.8 76 7.5 1988-1989................8.1 77 7.3 1931-1932................5.3 78 6.9 1997-1998................5.5 78 6.9 1930-1931...............11.6 80 3.6 2001-2002................3.5 81 1.9 1972-1973................2.8 For comparative purposes, I've added the corresponding figures for Central Park. Clearly, Newark averages more snow than Central Park, with Newark at 26 and Central Park at 22.6, derived from the relative snow drought period of 1971/2000. Also, going through the above exercise makes you realize or remember how many mediocre years there have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 thanks Ray...Do you have the biggest snowfalls for each season?...recent years flood the top 20... For some of the smaller totals there may be duplicates that I didn't bother to mention... also, some of this is "guessing" about when a storm began and ended. 1930-1931 3.0" 2/7/1931 1931-1932 2.1" 2/2/1932 1932-1933 8.0" 2/11/1933 1933-1934 9.0" 2/1/1934 1934-1935 10.0" 1/23-25/1935 1935-1936 4.0" 2/9/1936 1936-1937 3.0" 1/20/1937 1937-1938 5.2" 4/6-7/1938 1938-1939 9.9" 1/13-14/1939 1939-1940 8.1" 2/13-15/1940 1940-1941 12.1" 3/8-9/1941 1941-1942 3.5" 4/9-10/1942 1942-1943 9.0" 1/27-28/1943 1943-1944 9.5" 2/11-12/1944 1944-1945 7.0" 1/16/1945 1945-1946 10.6" 12/19-20/1945 1946-1947 11.7" 2/20-21/1947 1947-1948 26.0" 12/26-27/1947 1948-1949 13.8" 12/19-20/1948 1949-1950 3.5" 2/13-14/1950 1950-1951 2.8" 1/31/1951 1951-1952 4.8" 3/1/1952 1952-1953 4.8" 12/2-3/1952 1953-1954 7.9" 1/10-12/1954 1954-1955 3.8" 2/1-2/1955 1955-1956 18.2" 3/18-19/1956 1956-1957 7.5" 2/1/1957 1957-1958 14.8" 3/20-21/1958 1958-1959 5.4" 3/11-12/1959 1959-1960 13.9" 3/3-4/1960 1960-1961 22.6" 2/3-4/1961 1961-1962 10.8" 12/23-24/1961 1962-1963 6.2" 1/26-27/1963 1963-1964 12.8" 1/12-14/1964 1964-1965 7.7" 1/10/1965 1965-1966 6.5" 1/29-30/1966 1966-1967 16.5" 2/6-7/1967 1967-1968 3.2" 12/31/1967-1/1/1968 1968-1969 13.8" 2/9-10/1969 1969-1970 6.4" 12/25-27/1969 1970-1971 7.4" 1/1/1971 1971-1972 3.9" 2/23-24/1972 1972-1973 0.6" 3/18/1973 1973-1974 5.7" 1/9-10/1974 1974-1975 9.4" 2/12-13/1975 1975-1976 4.0" 1/20-21/1976 1976-1977 4.6" 12/25-26/1976 1977-1978 19.0" 2/6-7/1978 1978-1979 16.6" 2/19/1979 1979-1980 4.9" 3/13-14/1980 1980-1981 8.5" 3/5/1981 1981-1982 12.8" 4/6/1982 1982-1983 16.1" 2/11-12/1983 1983-1984 6.4" 3/8-9/1984 1984-1985 4.7" 12/27/1984 1985-1986 6.9" 2/7-8/1986 1986-1987 11.0" 1/22/1987 1987-1988 6.8" 1/8-9/1988 1988-1989 4.1" 1/6/1989 1989-1990 5.7" 11/22-23/1989 1990-1991 7.6" 12/27-28/1990 1991-1992 7.3" 3/18-19/1992 1992-1993 12.7" 3/13-14/1993 1993-1994 18.0" 2/11/1994 1994-1995 9.1" 2/4/1995 1995-1996 27.8" 1/7-8/1996 1996-1997 3.8" 3/3-4/1997 1997-1998 3.1" 3/22/1998 1998-1999 5.2" 3/14-15/1999 1999-2000 7.5" 1/25-26/2000 2000-2001 13.9" 12/30/2000 2001-2002 2.9" 1/19-20/2002 2002-2003 23.1" 2/16-18/2003 2003-2004 16.6" 12/5-7/2003 2004-2005 13.4" 1/22-23/2005 2005-2006 21.3" 2/11-12/2006 2006-2007 6.0" 3/16-17/2007 2007-2008 6.9" 2/22-23/2008 2008-2009 6.9" 3/1-2/2009 2009-2010 14.9" 2/25-26/2010 2010-2011 24.2" 12/26-27/2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Pamela Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Clearly, Newark averages more snow than Central Park, with Newark at 26 and Central Park at 22.6, derived from the relative snow drought period of 1971/2000. In terms of climatological reality, Central Park / Newark Airport probably average just about the same amount of snow each year; roughly 28". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 In terms of climatological reality, Central Park / Newark Airport probably average just about the same amount of snow each year; roughly 28". Explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 In terms of climatological reality, Central Park / Newark Airport probably average just about the same amount of snow each year; roughly 28". I would definitely agree with this statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 For some of the smaller totals there may be duplicates that I didn't bother to mention... also, some of this is "guessing" about when a storm began and ended. 1930-1931 3.0" 2/7/1931 1931-1932 2.1" 2/2/1932 1932-1933 8.0" 2/11/1933 1933-1934 9.0" 2/1/1934 1934-1935 10.0" 1/23-25/1935 1935-1936 4.0" 2/9/1936 1936-1937 3.0" 1/20/1937 1937-1938 5.2" 4/6-7/1938 1938-1939 9.9" 1/13-14/1939 1939-1940 8.1" 2/13-15/1940 1940-1941 12.1" 3/8-9/1941 1941-1942 3.5" 4/9-10/1942 1942-1943 9.0" 1/27-28/1943 1943-1944 9.5" 2/11-12/1944 1944-1945 7.0" 1/16/1945 1945-1946 10.6" 12/19-20/1945 1946-1947 11.7" 2/20-21/1947 1947-1948 26.0" 12/26-27/1947 1948-1949 13.8" 12/19-20/1948 1949-1950 3.5" 2/13-14/1950 1950-1951 2.8" 1/31/1951 1951-1952 4.8" 3/1/1952 1952-1953 4.8" 12/2-3/1952 1953-1954 7.9" 1/10-12/1954 1954-1955 3.8" 2/1-2/1955 1955-1956 18.2" 3/18-19/1956 1956-1957 7.5" 2/1/1957 1957-1958 14.8" 3/20-21/1958 1958-1959 5.4" 3/11-12/1959 1959-1960 13.9" 3/3-4/1960 1960-1961 22.6" 2/3-4/1961 1961-1962 10.8" 12/23-24/1961 1962-1963 6.2" 1/26-27/1963 1963-1964 12.8" 1/12-14/1964 1964-1965 7.7" 1/10/1965 1965-1966 6.5" 1/29-30/1966 1966-1967 16.5" 2/6-7/1967 1967-1968 3.2" 12/31/1967-1/1/1968 1968-1969 13.8" 2/9-10/1969 1969-1970 6.4" 12/25-27/1969 1970-1971 7.4" 1/1/1971 1971-1972 3.9" 2/23-24/1972 1972-1973 0.6" 3/18/1973 1973-1974 5.7" 1/9-10/1974 1974-1975 9.4" 2/12-13/1975 1975-1976 4.0" 1/20-21/1976 1976-1977 4.6" 12/25-26/1976 1977-1978 19.0" 2/6-7/1978 1978-1979 16.6" 2/19/1979 1979-1980 4.9" 3/13-14/1980 1980-1981 8.5" 3/5/1981 1981-1982 12.8" 4/6/1982 1982-1983 16.1" 2/11-12/1983 1983-1984 6.4" 3/8-9/1984 1984-1985 4.7" 12/27/1984 1985-1986 6.9" 2/7-8/1986 1986-1987 11.0" 1/22/1987 1987-1988 6.8" 1/8-9/1988 1988-1989 4.1" 1/6/1989 1989-1990 5.7" 11/22-23/1989 1990-1991 7.6" 12/27-28/1990 1991-1992 7.3" 3/18-19/1992 1992-1993 12.7" 3/13-14/1993 1993-1994 18.0" 2/11/1994 1994-1995 9.1" 2/4/1995 1995-1996 27.8" 1/7-8/1996 1996-1997 3.8" 3/3-4/1997 1997-1998 3.1" 3/22/1998 1998-1999 5.2" 3/14-15/1999 1999-2000 7.5" 1/25-26/2000 2000-2001 13.9" 12/30/2000 2001-2002 2.9" 1/19-20/2002 2002-2003 23.1" 2/16-18/2003 2003-2004 16.6" 12/5-7/2003 2004-2005 13.4" 1/22-23/2005 2005-2006 21.3" 2/11-12/2006 2006-2007 6.0" 3/16-17/2007 2007-2008 6.9" 2/22-23/2008 2008-2009 6.9" 3/1-2/2009 2009-2010 14.9" 2/25-26/2010 2010-2011 24.2" 12/26-27/2010 thanks again...12/23-24/1961 stands out...NYC got 6.2" with some sleet and rain from that White Christmas event... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 In terms of climatological reality, Central Park / Newark Airport probably average just about the same amount of snow each year; roughly 28". Agreed William. Too bad we've fallen short of the records this year; if the Nina was weaker, we probably would've had a snowier Feb/March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Agreed William. Too bad we've fallen short of the records this year; if the Nina was weaker, we probably would've had a snowier Feb/March. we lost the extreme blocking... extreme blocking is probably the only way to get snow in a nina this strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 we lost the extreme blocking... extreme blocking is probably the only way to get snow in a nina this strong correct me if im wrong which is highly likely, but i think the blocking faded after the Jan 11th blizzard in New England... The Jan 26th storm was more of a thread the needle case with the raging PNA and MJO i believe and a high pressure dropping SE from central Canada.. Unless there was a temporary -NAO at the time to get the storm off the coast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 correct me if im wrong which is highly likely, but i think the blocking faded after the Jan 11th blizzard in New England... The Jan 26th storm was more of a thread the needle case with the raging PNA and MJO i believe and a high pressure dropping SE from central Canada.. Unless there was a temporary -NAO at the time to get the storm off the coast? it was transitioning from -1 to +1 which is also very favorable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 it was transitioning from -1 to +1 which is also very favorable hmm thanks, that was the last hurrah from winter for our area. The NAO never looked back until late march. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 In terms of climatological reality, Central Park / Newark Airport probably average just about the same amount of snow each year; roughly 28". Not quite. Newark averaged 28.45" per year and Central Park averaged 26.33," more than a 2 inch difference, for the period of 1941/1942 to and including 2010/2011. Should climatological reality override 70 years of stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 In terms of climatological reality, Central Park / Newark Airport probably average just about the same amount of snow each year; roughly 28". Explain Just noticed your request; I did not return to the board since I made that post and am just getting home from a long day now. I use the phrase "climatological reality" to assert that Newark Field and CPK average about the same amount of snow per year...and there is not much reason to draw a distinction between the two when it comes to snow...Newark is a sea level station, CPK around 132 feet so elevation difference is more or less negligible...the stations are just 12 miles apart and a NE / SW oriented line connects them...if it were a NW / SE line, then there would likely be a snowfall difference, but, as is, the line is NE / SW, and, along the Eastern Seaboard, snowfall increases in that direction are much more gradual. Both stations are in urban areas, though CPK is in a bit of an oasis. Atlantic is close to both stations, though neither is what one would dub immediate coastal. Neither station is in the shadow of some gigantic mountain(s). I can't recall too many times over the years when one of the stations would be raining, the other snowing...and having it end up making some huge difference...though it may have happened a time or two. If CPK has run a little behind Newark since 1970 or so...I think some of it can be blamed on measurement problems that were very common in the Park up until only recently. But in terms of actual climate...there isn't much to distinguish between the two stations...with the five main factors...12 miles apart...similar elevation...a line drawn between the stations would align NE / SW...urban...and ...short distance from ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted April 7, 2011 Author Share Posted April 7, 2011 Not quite. Newark averaged 28.45" per year and Central Park averaged 26.33," more than a 2 inch difference, for the period of 1941/1942 to and including 2010/2011. Should climatological reality override 70 years of stats? Here's a full comparison between EWR and NYC between 1931 and 2010: Average highs Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 38.9 41.0 49.8 61.4 72.1 81.2 85.9 84.1 76.9 66.0 54.4 42.8 62.9 NYC 38.8 40.8 49.2 60.9 71.5 80.1 85.1 83.5 76.3 65.4 54.0 42.7 62.4 Average lows Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 24.7 25.7 33.2 42.8 52.9 62.5 67.9 66.7 59.2 47.9 38.7 28.7 45.9 NYC 26.4 27.1 34.3 43.8 53.6 63.0 68.4 67.3 60.3 50.0 41.0 30.7 47.2 Average precip Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 3.40 2.89 4.06 3.73 3.83 3.56 4.18 4.05 3.82 3.24 3.54 3.47 43.94 NYC 3.44 3.06 4.12 3.80 3.94 3.80 4.14 4.23 4.07 3.63 3.84 3.74 45.68 *NYC average does not include 1983 due to questionable data according to NWS ER at the time Average snow Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 7.3 8.7 4.7 0.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 5.4 27.4 NYC 6.9 8.5 4.5 0.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 5.2 26.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Here's a full comparison between EWR and NYC between 1931 and 2010: Average highs Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 38.9 41.0 49.8 61.4 72.1 81.2 85.9 84.1 76.9 66.0 54.4 42.8 62.9 NYC 38.8 40.8 49.2 60.9 71.5 80.1 85.1 83.5 76.3 65.4 54.0 42.7 62.4 Average lows Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 24.7 25.7 33.2 42.8 52.9 62.5 67.9 66.7 59.2 47.9 38.7 28.7 45.9 NYC 26.4 27.1 34.3 43.8 53.6 63.0 68.4 67.3 60.3 50.0 41.0 30.7 47.2 Average precip Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 3.40 2.89 4.06 3.73 3.83 3.56 4.18 4.05 3.82 3.24 3.54 3.47 43.94 NYC 3.44 3.06 4.12 3.80 3.94 3.80 4.14 4.23 4.07 3.63 3.84 3.74 45.68 *NYC average does not include 1983 due to questionable data according to NWS ER at the time Average snow Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 7.3 8.7 4.7 0.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 5.4 27.4 NYC 6.9 8.5 4.5 0.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 5.2 26.4 As I said, not much difference between them...one thing you might note is that as one moves SSW from NYC towards the Pine Barrens of S. Jersey, things generally become more arid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 As I said, not much difference between them...one thing you might note is that as one moves SSW from NYC towards the Pine Barrens of S. Jersey, things generally become more arid... I believe N. Jersey in the vicinity of Morris and Passaic Counties is generally considered the wettest part of the state...particularly the orographically favored spots like the Charlotteburg Reservoir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Here's a full comparison between EWR and NYC between 1931 and 2010: Average highs Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 38.9 41.0 49.8 61.4 72.1 81.2 85.9 84.1 76.9 66.0 54.4 42.8 62.9 NYC 38.8 40.8 49.2 60.9 71.5 80.1 85.1 83.5 76.3 65.4 54.0 42.7 62.4 Average lows Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 24.7 25.7 33.2 42.8 52.9 62.5 67.9 66.7 59.2 47.9 38.7 28.7 45.9 NYC 26.4 27.1 34.3 43.8 53.6 63.0 68.4 67.3 60.3 50.0 41.0 30.7 47.2 Average precip Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 3.40 2.89 4.06 3.73 3.83 3.56 4.18 4.05 3.82 3.24 3.54 3.47 43.94 NYC 3.44 3.06 4.12 3.80 3.94 3.80 4.14 4.23 4.07 3.63 3.84 3.74 45.68 *NYC average does not include 1983 due to questionable data according to NWS ER at the time Average snow Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual EWR 7.3 8.7 4.7 0.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 5.4 27.4 NYC 6.9 8.5 4.5 0.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 5.2 26.4 My source was the Historical Monthly Data from the NJ State Climatologist at Rutgers. I excluded the period of 1930-31 to 1940-41 because of missing or incomplete data for the years of 1930/31 and 1935/36. Nevertheless, while I acknowledge that the differences in snowfall are not all that great, I believe that Newark still receives a little more snowfall than Central Park because it is about 10 miles farther inland, and the orientation from Newark Airport's obs. site to Central Park's is more closely aligned on a wsw to ene direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I believe N. Jersey in the vicinity of Morris and Passaic Counties is generally considered the wettest part of the state...particularly the orographically favored spots like the Charlotteburg Reservoir. If I had to pick a town for snow *really* close to NYC...I think I'd go with West Milford in Passaic County. It is probably as snowy or snowier than any spot in Rockland or Westchester or any spot in Fairfield that is south of Danbury...along with the rest of NE NJ. Likely puts up the same #'s as certain parts of Orange and Putnam Counties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 My source was the Historical Monthly Data from the NJ State Climatologist at Rutgers. I excluded the period of 1930-31 to 1940-41 because of missing or incomplete data for the years of 1930/31 and 1935/36. Nevertheless, while I acknowledge that the differences in snowfall are not all that great, I believe that Newark still receives a little more snowfall than Central Park because it is about 10 miles farther inland, and the orientation from Newark Airport's obs. site to Central Park's is more closely aligned on a wsw to ene direction. Actually the fact the CPK is off to the NE and 130 feet or so higher has me feeling they are a 1/2 inch or so snowier than Newark per average year...again writing off any actual records discrepancy to faulty measurements...records show Bridgeport and JFK aren't that far apart when it comes to snowfall 24.9" / 21.3" through 6 April (1971-2000)...and we all know that's a lot of hooey.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Actually the fact the CPK is off to the NE and 130 feet or so higher has me feeling they are a 1/2 inch or so snowier than Newark per average year...again writing off any actual records discrepancy to faulty measurements...records show Bridgeport and JFK aren't that far apart when it comes to snowfall 24.9" / 21.3" through 6 April (1971-2000)...and we all know that's a lot of hooey.... Agreed about Bridgeport and JFK. But Newark is right on the edge of the coastal plain with the slightly higher piedmont areas lying just to its west (such as where Hillside, and the Oranges are located). I've noticed that on at least several occasions, that it was snowing at Newark but there was only a rain or rain/snow mix in Manhattan, which was probably the result of slightly lower boundary layer temps. at Newark. Though possibly more attributable to where a deformation band may have set up than it's slightly more inland location, on Feb. 11, 1994, Newark rec'd 18" while Central Park only rec'd 12.8." And I don't think that the slightly greater elevation of Central Park would make that much of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted April 7, 2011 Author Share Posted April 7, 2011 I tend to agree with Diego. While there isn't much differences between EWR and NYC, you can see in the temp ranges that EWR has a slightly more continental/rural climate than NYC... which might very well explain the slightly higher snowfall average at EWR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Actually the fact the CPK is off to the NE and 130 feet or so higher has me feeling they are a 1/2 inch or so snowier than Newark per average year...again writing off any actual records discrepancy to faulty measurements...records show Bridgeport and JFK aren't that far apart when it comes to snowfall 24.9" / 21.3" through 6 April (1971-2000)...and we all know that's a lot of hooey.... lol yeah, neither of them is accurate. I go by the southern Brooklyn snowfall averages for this region, which puts it somewhere around 23.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I tend to agree with Diego. While there isn't much differences between EWR and NYC, you can see in the temp ranges that EWR has a slightly more continental/rural climate than NYC... which might very well explain the slightly higher snowfall average at EWR. Being that much further West also helps in marginal situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I've noticed that on at least several occasions, that it was snowing at Newark but there was only a rain or rain/snow mix in Manhattan, which was probably the result of slightly lower boundary layer temps. at Newark. Doesn't mean that their average annual snowfall is higher...parts of Long Island have higher annual snowfall averages than NYC, though there are times when it is snowing in NYC and raining on that part of L.I. Newark, being to the SW, is more apt to be the first to change over to mixed precip in a SW flow event...and in a developing coastal storm...areas further to the NE (SW CT, LI) will generally pick up more precip than those to the SW...many times areas towards Philly are left high and dry while from NYC N and NE, significant precip fell...March 2001 event was sort of like that...though the cutoff was a little N and E of NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I tend to agree with Diego. While there isn't much differences between EWR and NYC, you can see in the temp ranges that EWR has a slightly more continental/rural climate than NYC... which might very well explain the slightly higher snowfall average at EWR. Neither is rural...they are both bad heat islands and CPK is simply the worse of the two...sea breeze is slightly more effective in reaching CPK than Newark and the shrubbery in the Park (along with the minor elevation increase) knocks a degree or so off the afternoon maxima. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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